Sasuke vs Shigaraki(13-3-0) GRACE is end

[AlternativePrinciple]

once again, a weakness of the ability

that's why no one who breaks out like that gets layers of resistance

What makes you say that? We literally have layered powernull for this. I don’t understand how you can read my reply and come to the conclusion that it’s a weakness

or it could be an inconsistency naruto is full of those

You need to proof that btw, just generalizing this ability by say “muh inconsistency happens all the time” isn’t going to cut it

or could it be that Obito is restraining the sanbi similar to what Sasuke did to kurama at the beginning of shippuden and then placing yagura under a genjustsu

????
This is pure headcannon and goes against what’s established by the manga. Sasuke suppressed an already sealed nine tails which is not the same thing as fourth tail. Fourth tail was in genjutsu and your denying that just cuz it’s not beneficial for your position

who knows

Uhhhhh the ones that read the manga and is telling you otherwise? Like instead of referring to headconnons and theory why not accept the things presented in the manga, anime and databooks since you have no clue what’s going on here

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Also want to mention that even if I grant that this is a weakness, Shikaragi doesn’t have any chkara so he can’t disrupt it. Furthermore, can’t even tell if he has had chkara injected into him as he wouldn’t be able to sense it than you have to proof that he can take out chakra from his system.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Lmao Sasuke one-glances. Even if we assume genjutsu negation like PJs do is a weakness Shigaraki has no way to actually exploit it.

 

[Aytugsss]

Also want to mention that even if I grant that this is a weakness, Shikaragi doesn’t have any chkara so he can’t disrupt it. Furthermore, can’t even tell if he has had chkara injected into him as he wouldn’t be able to sense it than you have to proof that he can take out chakra from his system.

So sasuke can win against everyone who has no type 3 mind manip resistance
With speed equaliziton
İ tought genjutsu needs chakra

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So sasuke can win against everyone who has no type 3 mind manip resistance
With speed equaliziton
İ tought genjutsu needs chakra

Normal Genjutsu requires Chakra, Occular Genjutsu does not.

 

[Aytugsss]

Normal Genjutsu çakra gerektirirken, Göz Genjutsu'su gerektirmez.

Okay thank you
Are you vote sasuke?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

So sasuke can win against everyone who has no type 3 mind manip resistance
With speed equaliziton
İ tought genjutsu needs chakra

Pretty much, voting for Sasuke

 

[Aytugsss]

Pretty much, voting for Sasuke

Okay counted

 

[Stillwinston]

Sasuke glances at Shiggy FRA

 

[Aytugsss]

Sasuke glances at Shiggy FRA

Sasuke right?

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Sasuke right?

Yes his voting sasuke

 

[Raiden38]

Lmao Sasuke one-glances. Even if we assume genjutsu negation like PJs do is a weakness Shigaraki has no way to actually exploit it.

Yes Sasuke FRA

 

[FARLANDER3305]

Can someone tag some mha supporters tho cuz nobody shows up and there is no argument agaisnt sasuke winning

 

[Robo432343]

bruh sasuke genjutsu stomps

 

[Aytugsss]

Yes his voting sasuke

Okay counted

 

[Aytugsss]

GRACE started

 

[Excellence616]

Sasuke fra

 

[Aytugsss]

Bump

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Shigaraki via danger sense notices how dangerous genjutsu is and activates 6 to 20 speed blitzets to insta win via decay touch

 

[Aytugsss]

Shigaraki via danger sense notices how dangerous genjutsu is and activates 6 to 20 speed blitzets to insta win via decay touch

He cant speed blitz ,speed gap is not that high and sasuke can use susanoo ,he sometimes start with it
Also sasuke can close the gap by chidori,susanoo,chakra amp
Then sasuke can use both amaterasu and genjutsu then easily beat him

 

[Mommyleona]

He cant speed blitz ,speed gap is not that high and sasuke can use susanoo ,he sometimes start with it
Also sasuke can close the gap by chidori,susanoo,chakra amp
Then sasuke can use both amaterasu and genjutsu then easily beat him

Shigaraki got perception blitz amps on top of being faster and having danger sense
@Machmatej go tell em

 

[Arcker123]

Sasuke has already fought an opponent who could perception blitz him to hell and back beyond sharingan precog. He'd just use defensive Enton to burn away anything decaying.

 

[Aytugsss]

Shigaraki got perception blitz amps on top of being faster and having danger sense
@Machmatej go tell em

Sasuke can also use subsition jutsu for speed gap

 

[Aytugsss]

Sasuke has already fought an opponent who could perception blitz him to hell and back beyond sharingan precog. He'd just use defensive Enton to burn away anything decaying.

Who is that?

 

[Aytugsss]

Shigaraki got perception blitz amps on top of being faster and having danger sense
@Machmatej go tell em

Are you voting?

 

[Mommyleona]

Sasuke has already fought an opponent who could perception blitz him to hell and back beyond sharingan precog. He'd just use defensive Enton to burn away anything decaying.

Like who

 

[Arcker123]

Who is that?

A4

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Isn't this a stomp since sasuke ends the fight immedietely with layered genjutsu?

 

[Aytugsss]

Sasuke'nin katmanlı genjutsu kullanarak dövüşü anında bitirmesi, bu dövüşü ezici bir üstünlükle sonuçlandırmaz mı?

Sasuke has similar match ups in his profiled

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Isn't this a stomp since sasuke ends the fight immedietely with layered genjutsu?

Shaggy has Deco so he still has a win con

 

[Mommyleona]

A4

Is not perception blitz lvl
And if that had been Shiggy in those interactions Sasuke would've been decayed

Also is Genjutsu even Sasuke's starting move?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Shaggy has Deco so he still has a win con

ig...

Sasuke via genjutsu

 

[Arcker123]

Is not perception blitz lvl

He did perception blitz Sasuke. Sasuke couldn't even perceive A to spawn Amaterasu on him.

And if that had been Shiggy in those interactions

No. Defensive Enton would prevent Shiggy from touching Sasuke, and his long range decays would be burned

 

[Aytugsss]

Is not perception blitz lvl
And if that had been Shiggy in those interactions Sasuke would've been decayed

Also is Genjutsu even Sasuke's starting move?

Shigaraki can decay skeleton susanoo but not sasuke itself
Also sasuke has precog and subsition jutsu which can prevent blitz

 

[AyOgUyS]

yeeea Sasuke hax diffs :/

 

[Mommyleona]

He did perception blitz Sasuke. Sasuke couldn't even perceive A to spawn Amaterasu on him.

And how is this supposed to help Sasuke against Shigaraki?

No. Defensive Enton would prevent Shiggy from touching Sasuke, and his long range decays would be burned

If he is literally perception blitzed none of that is happening lmao
"long range decay would be burned"
how do you burn decay

Shigaraki can decay skeleton susanoo but not sasuke itself

He can decay both as decay spreads, and if he blitzes then Sasuke wont have time to do anything

Also sasuke has precog and subsition jutsu which can prevent blitz

Neither of which are enough to prevent the lvl of blitz amps Shigaraki has
And search would just counter subst. jutsu as it tracks the soul of his opponent

 

[Arcker123]

And how is this supposed to help Sasuke against Shigaraki?

I'll take your concession on A4 being a perception blitz above Sasuke, which you previously denied.

If he is literally perception blitzed none of that is happening lmao

Perception ≠ Mental blitz.

long range decay would be burned"
how do you burn decay

He's burning the things the decay is being spread through. Effectively cutting off the powers capacity to reach him.

 

[Mommyleona]

'll take your concession on A4 being a perception blitz above Sasuke, which you previously denied.

What "concession", you havent shown anything, Im just saying that even if it was, how the hell does it help Sasuke's situation

Perception ≠ Mental blitz.

What??
We just making up definitions now? What is a "mental blitz"???

He's burning the things the decay is being spread through. Effectively cutting off the powers capacity to reach him.

Good luck burning the wide area of the ground around himself to desperately try and stop spread of Decay

Voting Shigaraki

 

[Aytugsss]

And how is this supposed to help Sasuke against Shigaraki?

If he is literally perception blitzed none of that is happening lmao
"long range decay would be burned"
how do you burn decay

He can decay both as decay spreads, and if he blitzes then Sasuke wont have time to do anything

Neither of which are enough to prevent the lvl of blitz amps Shigaraki has
And search would just counter subst. jutsu as it tracks the soul of his opponent

Shiagaraki wasnt a blitz above sasuke not even 2x and his long range decay is not fast enough to touch sasuke

 

[Mommyleona]

Shiagaraki wasnt a blitz above sasuke not even 2x and his long range decay is not fast enough to touch sasuke

Look at his profile. Shigaraki has blitz amps above his already higher speed, to the point they're considered comparable to gearshift + fa jin, which are perception blitz amps
I already said that