Big Chill Downgrade

[Spilxson2]

This one's pretty simple. Big Chill can't become invisible. He can turn intangible which slightly alters his visual appearance, but he's still visible to everyone. Here's a few examples

Vilgax sees Big Chill and walks up to him before grabbing him with the gauntlet. You could make the argument that seeing intangible beings is one of the powers he stole from the "10 heroes of other worlds", but there are other examples of characters seeing Big Chill in his intangible form

Ben sees the Necrofriggians as Ultimate Echo Echo and aims his sonic disks in their direction. Right after this, Kevin is also seen fighting an intangible Necrofriggian and dodging its attacks

An Incursean shoots lasers at Big Chill, who flies out of the Incursean's view. He later reappears in the Incursean's view while in his intangible form, and the Incursean is startled and scared

In conclusion, it looks like it, but Big Chill actually isn't invisible. So it should either be removed from his profile, changed to only be Mild Invisibility, or changed to Stealth Mastery

Removed:

Mild Invisibility:

Stealth Mastery: Lort15

Neutral:

Disagree:

 

[Lort15]

He became invisible in the ep called Kevin's Big Score however i think this is retconnected that i have seen from an author statement, i believe this is also supported later on that he never used it on screen again. Can we change this to stealth mastery? If not ı'm fine with a removal

 

[Spilxson2]

He became invisible in the ep called Kevin's Big Score however i think this is retconnected that i have seen from an author statement, i believe this is also supported later on that he never used it on screen again. Can we change this to stealth mastery? If not ı'm fine with a removal

I'll count this as a vote for Stealth Mastery

 

[GeneralSol16]

In all of those instances he just went intangible, not invisible. We see the show making a distinction between the two.

There are a lot of statements of him being capabkw of going both invisible and intangible.

 

[Lort15]

In all of those instances he just went intangible, not invisible. We see the show making a distinction between the two.

There are a lot of statements of him being capabkw of going both invisible and intangible.

At 1:54 he literally becomes invisible, it's just selective that isn't something he does auto invisible when he goes intangible

 

[Lort15]

Regardless of the removal Ben won't use this ability in VS match with Big Chill since he used it once

 

[ReadingSnailBg]

Yeah, I was wondering where he got the invisibility from. Like wasn't it explicitly stated that the invisibility was an animation error or something?

 

[Lort15]

Yeah, I was wondering where he got the invisibility from. Like wasn't it explicitly stated that the invisibility was an animation error or something?

No, he also has statements but it got retconnected

 

[GeneralSol16]

No, he also has statements but it got retconnected

It was not.

Regardless of the removal Ben won't use this ability in VS match with Big Chill since he used it once

He literally did it there.

 

[Lort15]

It was not.

I will provide the scan later on

He literally did it there.

Great that how you ignored the part "he used it once" he wouldn't use that in combat like %90 cuz he used it once he usually goes with only intangibility and ice manip

 

[Lort15]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ben10/images/9/94/Big_Chill_Partial_Invisibility.png/revision/latest?cb=20210225084610

 

[Maniaunavailable]

agree with OP

 

[GeneralSol16]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ben10/images/9/94/Big_Chill_Partial_Invisibility.png/revision/latest?cb=20210225084610

That proves nothing

 

[Lort15]

That proves nothing

That proves that Big Chill doesn't have it but you can assume the moment like Humungausour not using size manip after Ultimate Alien

 

[Maniaunavailable]

That proves that Big Chill doesn't have it but you can assume the moment like Humungausour not using size manip after Ultimate Alien

so he dosnt have it? thats what Op was saying

 

[Lort15]

so he dosnt have it? thats what Op was saying

Generalsol is thinking otherwise, meanwhile i think this is retconnected and isn't even useful in vs even if he have it because Ben used invisibility once with Big Chill that he wouldn't use it usually in a vs if he transforms into Big Chill

 

[Firestorm808]

In guides or toys, is invisibility listed as a power for Big Chill?

 

[GeneralSol16]

In guides or toys, is invisibility listed as a power for Big Chill?

Just in every single one.

 

[Firestorm808]

Well, looks like it's settled then. He has invisibility.

Keven had to use an alternative camera mode to see Big Chill when he was invisible.

 

[Lort15]

So, no removal then that's also alright for me if the statements are enough to keep it we also have one feat i still believe it got retconnected later but that's my personal thought nothing else

 

[Reiner04]

Well, looks like it's settled then. He has invisibility.

Keven had to use an alternative camera mode to see Big Chill when he was invisible.

Also while fighting against Vilgax Bigchill was invisble during initial frames of transformation, in Kevin's best score too.

 

[DemonicDude]

He became invisible in the ep called Kevin's Big Score however