Can Cosmic Fear startle a Man of Steel?

[PapiSavitar5025]

Last Son:
Hero Hunter:

Superman scales to 5.7+10^66.
Garou scales to 3.6+10^66.

Speed is equalized.

Let round two begin!

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Garou, he can just copy Superman’s states and power cliff him

 

[Recon1511]

Following

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Garou, he can just copy Superman’s states and power cliff him

I feel a match like this would be far more complicated than this, but if that's what you wanna go with sure.
Point for Garou.

 

[Bastolan27]

Which Superman are you referring to, and can he reach his 2-C peak, considering it's not a transformation but rather his mental state?

 

[Excellence616]

Which Superman are you referring to, and can he reach his 2-C peak, considering it's not a transformation but rather his mental state?

3-C superman. And am sure no going past 3-C because copy wouldn't take Garou above 3-A because of NLF.

 

[Quantu]

Copy go brr

 

[Excellence616]

3-C superman. And am sure no going past 3-C because copy wouldn't take Garou above 3-A because of NLF.

If not Superman definitely solos if getting above 3-C is allowed.


Is speed unequalized. Because Superman will blitz Garou before he can get any stronger

 

[Phoenks]

This is a stomp. Even Saitama vs Superman was pretty close (My match by the way you should check it out).

But Garou vs Superman is an entirely different story.

He can't beat Garou in physical stats or physical combat because of copying, growth, skill, etc.

He can't fly away because of portals.

He can't do much of anything because of portals tbh.

 

[Recon1511]

If the time travel CRT gets accepted then Garou has even more reason to neg here

 

[Recon1511]

Garou scales to 3.6+10^66.

Garou scales to the full value so his AP is 7.27649e+66

 

[Phoenks]

If the time travel CRT gets accepted then Garou has even more reason to neg here

The fact that Superman of all people doesn't have type 1 acausality seems insane to me.

 

[Excellence616]

If the time travel CRT gets accepted then Garou has even more reason to neg here

Superman lock him btw time with HV

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

The fact that Superman of all people doesn't have type 1 acausality seems insane to me.

he should however I don't remember a precise feat, I tried it once using an example of Time Trapper trying to eliminate Sups but in reality it was more of a feat of resisting temporal EE rather than a paradox that kills you

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

If the time travel CRT gets accepted then Garou has even more reason to neg here

I swore this Superman could also time travel.

 

[Bastolan27]

Superman speed blitzes (speed is not equalized) as he scales over 52 quintillion times the speed of light, and Garou only scales at 617.01178 c / MFTL.

 

[Bastolan27]

I swore this Superman could also time travel.

Pre-crisis is the only time travelling superman one accepted in the wiki

 

[Phoenks]

I'm assuming they meant to equalize Speed

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

I did, that's a my bad on my part

 

[Bastolan27]

Does this make any difference in the fight?

Resistance to Power Absorption (Resisted the Hollow Men from taking away his powers and energy)

 

[Excellence616]

Does this make any difference in the fight?

Garou is copy

 

[Excellence616]

Supes has BFR

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

Does this make any difference in the fight?

If Garou did some All For One shit, yeah, but he's a copycat so it's different.
What's Garous Heat and Cold res?

 

[Bastolan27]

Supes also has
Limited Power Nullification (He can cut off external sources of power using heat vision[19]),

Garou has resistance to extreme heat, but supes Heat vision can match absolute zero so idk

 

[Recon1511]

If Garou did some All For One shit, yeah, but he's a copycat so it's different.
What's Garous Heat and Cold res?

He can tank the heat of his own moon sized nukes point blank and as for cold he was unnafected by Io's -130 degree surface

On top of that he has insane RE and adaptation even back to his half monster keys where he went from being burned by boiling water to straight up tanking flames that could melt stone in like 10 minutes of these two events happening

 

[Phoenks]

People need to understand that Superman having possible ways he could win doesn't mean he overall wins the fight.

And even if they are possibilities, we also have to gauge how likely they are to even happen before Garou simply punches him to death.

Garou has a technique that allows him to hit internal organs and turn your bones to dust via vibrations. Superman doesn't seem to resist that.

If he does that, and he will because his composited martial art is his main thing, then Superman is pretty much dead right off that bat. He has no way to avoid being omnidirectionally bombarded by Garou's portal spam and immense skill advantage.

 

[Robo432343]

this is like a borderline stomp for garou

 

[Qawsedf234]

Garou has a technique that allows him to hit internal organs and turn your bones to dust via vibrations. Superman doesn't seem to resist that.

Superman's brain is durable enough that characters like Superboy shatter their hands punching it. While his organs aren't 1:1 with his skin, they're tough enough that Garou isn't bypassing them to my knowledge.

The bigger thing is that Garou's ability to just copy Superman's stats would mean that the only way Superman could win would be to replicate Saitama's power growth, which would only be possible of he moved the fight to a Yellow/Blue star and I'm not entirely sure how resonable that is.

So barring that fringe case, which isn't OoC but is hard to pull off, I don't see how Superman really wins this outside of some radically OoC move like a phase punch.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

which would only be possible of he moved the fight to a Yellow/Blue star

I mean, via SBA, wouldn't they probably be on like, Earth as usual?

 

[Qawsedf234]

I mean, via SBA, wouldn't they probably be on like, Earth as usual?

They do, but I meant that as Superman physically ramming Garou into the sun like he did Doomsday/Wonder Woman, Darkseid or Cythonia

 

[PapiSavitar5025]

They do, but I meant that as Superman physically ramming Garou into the sun like he did Doomsday/Wonder Woman, Darkseid or Cythonia

Superman does practically restrain Garou here with his pinkie.

 

[Phoenks]

Superman does practically restrain Garou here with his pinkie.

"Stellar" LS doesn't really seem like it's too high to prevent Garou from copying.

Also, Garou could literally just make a portal and teleport the two of them anywhere in his line of sight if he was getting flown to the sun.

 

[Ourosboros]

Supes also has
Limited Power Nullification (He can cut off external sources of power using heat vision[19]),

Garou has resistance to extreme heat, but supes Heat vision can match absolute zero so idk

Garou's heat resistance is somewhere way above 100 billion degrees (Gamma Ray Burst temperature)

How hot is Superman's heat vision?

 

[Bastolan27]

Garou's heat resistance is somewhere way above 100 billion degrees (Gamma Ray Burst temperature)

Celsius or Fahrenheit?

 

[Phoenks]

Celsius or Fahrenheit?

It's about 10 billion degrees celsius.

 

[Bastolan27]

It's about 10 billion degrees celsius.

Heat Manipulation, Limited Radiation Manipulation and Limited Matter Manipulation via Heat Vision (His heat vision can match absolute zero, emit precise doses of microwaves to kill organic Nano-Machines, replace the effects of the sun, and agitate molecules to cause structures to shatter), Durability Negation (His heat vision works on a microscopic level), Non-Physical Interaction (His heat vision can hit intangible beings and counter molecular phasing), Limited Power Nullification (He can cut off external sources of power using heat vision)\

His heat vision would be at least 15 billion degrees, and it attacks on a microscopic level, so it has durability negation. Couldn't Superman remove God's power from Garou?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Garou has resistance to extreme heat, but supes Heat vision can match absolute zero

https://imgur.io/a/Lxew4

Since this version of Sups absorbed the Eradicator which has the heat from the core of the Sun, it should be more or less 15 million degrees Celsius

But Garou have enough Resistance

 

[Bastolan27]

https://imgur.io/a/Lxew4

Since this version of Sups absorbed the Eradicator which has the heat from the core of the Sun, it should be more or less 15 million degrees Celsius

But Garou have enough Resistance

His heat vision would be at least 15 billion degrees, and it attacks on a microscopic level, so it has durability negation. Couldn't Superman remove God's power from Garou?

 

[TaiwaneseScaler]

Heat scales to AP. (I didn't believe it at first but after having a discussion with someone that knew the science I was convinced)

So whoever has the higher AP would have higher heat resistance.

Also Garou has Resistance to Matter Manipulation at a sub-atomic level arguably macro quantum, so the Lasers won't be affective at all.

I don't see why he could take Garou's power he got power absorption?

 

[Phoenks]

His heat vision would be at least 15 billion degrees, and it attacks on a microscopic level, so it has durability negation. Couldn't Superman remove God's power from Garou?

Please provide a source to it being 15 billion degrees.

The core of a star is not anywhere near that temperature, so I have no idea where you got that from.

Additionally, Garou has resistance to sub-atomic level attacks. And Superman using power nullification to remove God's power seems wildly out of character and how can he even do that?