Composite Human (Real Life) vs Composite Gigantopithecus (Real Life)

[H3110l12345I20]

I have faith in a 9 ft tall patagonian, but anything above that & the person's already dying. Even if we did say that 12 - 15 ft giants existed in Argentina, the Tehuelches & the fantasies of Europeans attributed to the myth. The former peoples lived in the patagonian plains, which were temperate usually.

Even with the cooler temperatures of the little ice age, we're forgetting the limits of human biology & natural selection. The square-cubed law limits the person's theoretical max height. In order to surpass the 9 ft height, the human would need to have a different physiology to handle their circulatory system problems & at that point, they wouldn't be a homo sapien anymore & thus CH wouldn't involve a patagonian.

With natural selection as a limit, I don't think we'll see giant homo sapiens anytime soon due to their circulatory, mobility & disease problems.

Spoiler: Jesus long version analysis

Jesus is another story, "Seth can't say it better than I could" as I quote. He was a miracle worker, but he's stated to be god & an incarnate of him. Both of these statements can't really be tested scientifically since he died a long time ago & god is more subtle & expected to be followed by faith than direct. Science just has materialistic for the subtle ways so it's unfortunately another Schrodinger's cat here.

Some of his miracles would be in the territory where science can't explain or prove that he did the feats even if the sources were trusted. Some of the sources should most importantly be the most trusted here. Akin to Terminal Lucidity & the IRL Annabelle doll.

People have been pseudo resurrected days in colder temperatures but the true details of his resurrection are contradictory or scarce at best.

His cures are usually with spit & mud & surprisingly, spit & mud can help heal wounds but on the level of giving a paralyzed person the ability to move instantly & touching a man & saying faithful words to cure illnesses is... impossible scientifically without Jesus's power.

So by example of my analysis of these feats, there's 2 reasons why we can't use Jesus. We can't scientifically test or prove some of his feats' validity (as it's hard to do so), & that we'll argue over him because many people just love Jesus so much.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

You are talking about a physic-breaking composite human? Because really, a composite human with a weight of 600 kg can break his legs with only standing

"VSBattles Wiki one is Composite Human, which is a composite character (the strongest human is 9-C so Composite Human is 9-C), whereas Combined Human is every human's AP stacked - BigSmoke4269"

"The Composite Human is a combination of all our strengths, skills and abilities at our peak, minus our weaknesses and downfalls. The Composite Human has the strongest capabilities of us, the human species."

Combined Human has different stats since it just multiplies every human that ever lived's strength & speed. This is Composite Human.

The heaviest person has very limited mobility, & since Composite Human doesn't have the weaknesses of all humans' best strengths, Minnoch would be excluded from CH.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Bro really give 1 MJ to real life human.....

Mike Tyson punches are comparable to female gorillas punches, male punches are twice than that. I don't think any human can punch with a force stronger than mike tyson & kicks are impressive but still comparable to tyson punches.

I mean a Muay Thai fighter put down a Banana Tree with physical strikes, and some Banana Trees can even take hits from Sledgehammers, can fight against people capable of harming him, Shogun Rua is capable of kicking this strong, Fraser Graham is capable of killing Grizzly Bears with a knife.

 

[DarlingAurora]

I mean a Muay Thai fighter put down a Banana Tree with physical strikes, and some Banana Trees can even take hits from Sledgehammers, can fight against people capable of harming him, Shogun Rua is capable of kicking this strong, Fraser Graham is capable of killing Grizzly Bears with a knife.

I don't see taking down a small tree for 48 seconds as something impressive

Shogun Rua link fails

Knife, and some brown bears are smol af

 

[JohnCenaNation]

I don't see taking down a small tree for 48 seconds as something impressive

Shogun Rua link fails

Knife, and some brown bears are smol af

Strength

• Raw deadlift of over 460 kg.
• Single-handed deadlift of 330 kg.
• Lifted 227 kg with three fingers.
• Lifted 1,927 kg with his back.
• Towed 70 rowboats while shackled and handcuffed.
• Carried 4 men off the battlefield 2 under each arm.
• Fought a crocodile.
• Picked up a 3,000 lb. car for 5 minutes.
• Picked up a helicopter weighing about 1,550 lb.
• Killed a grizzly bear by biting off its jugular.
• Blackbelt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
• Blackbelt in Kenpo Karate as a teenager. 9th dan in Shitō-ryū karate and master of kobudo.
• Punches with 2,859 lbs. of force.
• Studied Sumo and Muay Thai extensively.
• Killed a leopard with his bare hands.
• Pulled a helicopter weighing over 17,000 pounds for 28.4 yards with just his left ear.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Strength

• Raw deadlift of over 460 kg.
• Single-handed deadlift of 330 kg.
• Lifted 227 kg with three fingers.
• Lifted 1,927 kg with his back.
• Towed 70 rowboats while shackled and handcuffed.
• Carried 4 men off the battlefield 2 under each arm.
• Fought a crocodile.
• Picked up a 3,000 lb. car for 5 minutes.
• Picked up a helicopter weighing about 1,550 lb.
• Killed a grizzly bear by biting off its jugular.
• Blackbelt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
• Blackbelt in Kenpo Karate as a teenager. 9th dan in Shitō-ryū karate and master of kobudo.
• Punches with 2,859 lbs. of force.
• Studied Sumo and Muay Thai extensively.
• Killed a leopard with his bare hands.
• Pulled a helicopter weighing over 17,000 pounds for 28.4 yards with just his left ear.

We already know CH is a master martial artist. That link with grizzly isn't working & was on the weak spot.

Punch kicking 6000 lbs is impressive, I think I may calc request it or calc it.

The man fighting the croc was likely a nile crocodile, since the village in the link is in Zimbabwe. The dude's way of fighting it was on top of the croc & poking it's weak point. If the dude was playing tug of war to the death with the croc, that's different.

Are you just listing feats from JTGamer's blog or randomly without intention? The blog should be used as more of a reference point than an actual authority for CH physical strength.

In the wiki, look up SBA, you didn't specify the starting range so both opponents start in melee range.

Why don't you use our recommendations for changing this match? The beeg ape has a lot of strength advantages so the human is going to get overpowered.

 

[DarlingAurora]

Strength

• Raw deadlift of over 460 kg.
• Single-handed deadlift of 330 kg.
• Lifted 227 kg with three fingers.
• Lifted 1,927 kg with his back.
• Towed 70 rowboats while shackled and handcuffed.
• Carried 4 men off the battlefield 2 under each arm.
• Fought a crocodile.
• Picked up a 3,000 lb. car for 5 minutes.
• Picked up a helicopter weighing about 1,550 lb.
• Killed a grizzly bear by biting off its jugular.
• Blackbelt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
• Blackbelt in Kenpo Karate as a teenager. 9th dan in Shitō-ryū karate and master of kobudo.
• Punches with 2,859 lbs. of force.
• Studied Sumo and Muay Thai extensively.
• Killed a leopard with his bare hands.
• Pulled a helicopter weighing over 17,000 pounds for 28.4 yards with just his left ear.

• Much weaker than gorillas
• Too.
• Again.
• Backlifting isn't the best here.
• Cool, I don't see how that is usable here
• Cool too, but human limit is 500 kg.
• Okay, didn't actually fought it though.
• Not much lifting strength.
• Source seems sus and is just pulling strength without effort.
• Source doesn't work.
• Cool.
• Cool.
• I can do the calc later, but nothing impressive if you compare it with mike tyson punches.
• Cool.
• It was injured & probably a small or sub-adult.
• Pulling isn't that reliable for pure lifting strength, limit is 500 kg deadlift as I say.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

You are talking about a physic-breaking composite human? Because really, a composite human with a weight of 600 kg can break his legs with only standing

If they are standing 15' tall then no, being 1,400 Ibs won't break their legs since their BMI is only 30.4. Sumo wrestlers have much higher BMI than this on the lowest like on the 35.0 scale and yet they can easily whoop your ass in a fight.

 

[DarlingAurora]

If they are standing 15' tall then no, being 1,400 Ibs won't break their legs since their BMI is only 30.4. Sumo wrestlers have much higher BMI than this on the lowest like on the 35.0 scale and yet they can easily whoop your ass in a fight.

No human is 15 feet tall, H3 already debunked that claim. Btw, sumo wrestlers are not fast for kinetic energy and not weigh 600 kg.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

No human is 15 feet tall, H3 already debunked that claim. Btw, sumo wrestlers are not fast for kinetic energy and not weigh 600 kg.

H3110l12345I20 debunked that by using article that has people suffering from gigantism as an example. I want to see an article with human being naturally 15 feet tall.

 

[DarlingAurora]

H3110l12345I20 debunked that by using article that has people suffering from gigantism as an example. I want to see an article with human being naturally 15 feet tall.

.w.? No human is 15 ft as I say, the tallest human was 8 ft 11.1 inch and had mobility problems, died at 20 years old.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

.w.? No human is 15 ft as I say, the tallest human was 8 ft 11.1 inch and had mobility problems, died at 20 years old.

He wasn't naturally tall, he had gigantism.

 

[DarlingAurora]

He wasn't naturally tall, he had gigantism.

I don't understand this at all, Ik that he had gigantism & that, but as I say, there no fossil of a 15 ft human, so Gigantophitecus stomps unless you use a Female Gorilla

 

[JohnCenaNation]

I don't understand this at all, Ik that he had gigantism & that, but as I say, there no fossil of a 15 ft human, so Gigantophitecus stomps unless you use a Female Gorilla

What I meant to say is being tall is one thing, you are tall but you grow and reach the height you are supposed to be. Gigantism on the other hand isn't normal, your body continues on growing at an alarming rate that isn't healthy and too much growth hormone can lead to all sort of adverse health problem.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

H3110l12345I20 debunked that by using article that has people suffering from gigantism as an example. I want to see an article with human being naturally 15 feet tall.

You pulled up examples & feats that we can't really use. The Patagonians as you brought up & failed to bring up evidence up first is a myth that came from the Europeans' perceptions & fantasies of the Tehuelches. I also mentioned biological limitations as gigantism & natural selection showed.

You brought up a myth & a OG boi who's feats can't really be accepted by scientists first. People are casually around 6 ft tall & are usually slightly less than that height.

When we mean human here, I think we mean homo sapiens. A taller, different hominid wouldn't be a homo sapien.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

You pulled up examples & feats that we can't really use. The Patagonians as you brought up & failed to bring up evidence up first is a myth that came from the Europeans' perceptions & fantasies of the Tehuelches. I also mentioned biological limitations as gigantism & natural selection showed.

You brought up a myth & a OG boi who's feats can't really be accepted by scientists first. People are casually around 6 ft tall & are usually slightly less than that height.

When we mean human here, I think we mean homo sapiens. A taller, different hominid wouldn't be a homo sapien.

Even if we ignore any myth or legend, a human skeleton 12 ft 0 in (3.66 m) tall with ribs nearly 4 ft (1.2 m) long was still found near Barnard, Missouri, on September 13, 1883. So that debunks 9 feet being the human limitation height.

 

[DarlingAurora]

Even if we ignore any myth or legend, a human skeleton 12 ft 0 in (3.66 m) tall with ribs nearly 4 ft (1.2 m) long was still found near Barnard, Missouri, on September 13, 1883. So that debunks 9 feet being the human limitation height.

probably no human, it's impossible to validity the story & no human can survive beyond 9 ft as H3 says

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Even if we ignore any myth or legend, a human skeleton 12 ft 0 in (3.66 m) tall with ribs nearly 4 ft (1.2 m) long was still found near Barnard, Missouri, on September 13, 1883. So that debunks 9 feet being the human limitation height.

Context first before conclusion,

Much of the newspapers here were made during a time where yellow journalism thrived until the progressive era.

I get my instinct & the tone of the newspapers here not lying, but the history at the time puts the validity of the NY Times here into the unknown area for any fact checker sadly.

As much as I would love to see giant homo sapiens, I want actual legit proof.

please link your sources, you're making a person that has better arguments do the work for you. Speaking of which, where do you get your info from?

 

[H3110l12345I20]

((77+83.5)/2)(0.057) = 4.57425 kg, (2859(4.448222)) = 12717.4667 N (For lbf to be converted to N, multiply lb 4.448222 times (pg 65 (pdf pages))) 0.5(4.57425)((15*0.3048)^2) = 47.80819471 J, 47.80819471/12717.4667 = 0.001791284799.

(0.05335)(1.8) = 0.09603 m arm, 0.09603(12717.4667) = 1221.258327 J

I don't see this boi being stronger than Tyson's punches, maybe kicks if you guys request but I'll have to look into the method of punching.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

So instead we will combine the peaks of every human that ever existed

I just wanted to remind you that you said this btw. Saying myths are valid like saying that the word you hear at the end of the telephone game is the same word at the start, there's lots of unknowns. While some myths have been confirmed from a realistic perspective, there's also ones that are still myth to this day. Legends are a less obscure version of myths, but their history was likely not as exciting as the legend.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

"VSBattles Wiki one is Composite Human, which is a composite character (the strongest human is 9-C so Composite Human is 9-C), whereas Combined Human is every human's AP stacked - BigSmoke4269"

"The Composite Human is a combination of all our strengths, skills and abilities at our peak, minus our weaknesses and downfalls. The Composite Human has the strongest capabilities of us, the human species."

Combined Human has different stats since it just multiplies every human that ever lived's strength & speed. This is Composite Human.

The heaviest person has very limited mobility, & since Composite Human doesn't have the weaknesses of all humans' best strengths, Minnoch would be excluded from CH.

By the way, the Composite Human profile you list has Composite Human with Class 5 tonner meanwhile the Gigantophitecus profile you list is only Class 1 tonner. So expect this to happen to the Gigantophitecus:

 

[H3110l12345I20]

The Composite Human profile you list has Composite Human with Class 5 tonner meanwhile the Gigantophitecus profile you list is only Class 1 tonner. So expect this to happen to the Gigantophitecus:

Both methods of lifting are different, backlifts are different than how a Gorilla lifts a banana tree.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Quick question for everyone here, what would both opponents typically do when bloodlusted here?

probably no human, it's impossible to validity the story & no human can survive beyond 9 ft as H3 says

What do gorillas typically do when they fight?

 

[H3110l12345I20]

By the way, the Composite Human profile you list has Composite Human with Class 5 tonner meanwhile the Gigantophitecus profile you list is only Class 1 tonner. So expect this to happen to the Gigantophitecus:

Argument & gif is decent tho.

 

[DarlingAurora]

By the way, the Composite Human profile you list has Composite Human with Class 5 tonner meanwhile the Gigantophitecus profile you list is only Class 1 tonner. So expect this to happen to the Gigantophitecus

We only use deadlift to scale human, backlifting isn't working here.
Even a world-strong human like Eddie Hall had a nose bleed trying to lift 500 kg, why he would've stronger than a gorilla?

What do gorillas typically do when they fight?

Punches

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Argument & gif is decent tho.

It's even worst for the Gigantophitecus when you realize that the Composite Human profile which I listed has them at Class K tonner.

 

[DarlingAurora]

We only use deadlift to scale human, backlifting isn't working here.
Even a world-strong human like Eddie Hall had a nose bleed trying to lift 500 kg, why he would've stronger than a gorilla?



Punches

.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

It's even worst for the Gigantophitecus when you realize that the Composite Human profile which I listed has them at Class K tonner.

Method of LS different

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Punches

What would Gigantopitheus usually do here? I assume use their fists then?

I know what CH would do, against a bigger, stronger enemy he would employ Brazilan Ju Jitsu, be swift & hard to hit & aim for the joints & weak points. Although being bloodlusted may make CH do something different.

How far would he go with these tactics though?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

Method of LS different

How much can a gorilla lift? I read an article that the highest weight lifted by a gorilla is only 4,000 lbs which is shit and I doubt Gigantophitecus comes any closer to Class K?

 

[H3110l12345I20]

How much can a gorilla lift? I read an article that the highest weight lifted by a gorilla is only 4,000 lbs which is shit and I doubt Gigantophitecus comes any closer to Class K?

F = (mass)acceleration, acceleration = (meters moved)/(seconds squared).
70300(30/(75^2)) = 374.9333333 N or 38.23255988 kgf

 

[H3110l12345I20]

4000 lb+ vs 1202 lb is still high, though I want input from DarlingAurora on this since I found many other sources that stated this.

On a side note, this is the bite on grizzly jugular feat. It was on a weak point tho!

 

[JohnCenaNation]

4000 lb+ vs 1202 lb is still high, though I want input from DarlingAurora on this since I found many other sources that stated this.

On a side note, this is the bite on grizzly jugular feat. It was on a weak point tho!

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.co...ost-weight-lifted-by-atlas-stones-in-one-hour
1202 Ibs? Make that 38,500.65 lbs.

 

[DarlingAurora]

https://www.guinnessworldrecords.co...ost-weight-lifted-by-atlas-stones-in-one-hour
1202 Ibs? Make that 38,500.65 lbs.

that isn't deadlift & was in one hour though

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Must I remind everyone here that the things we use to scale fiction don't apply to IRL? It's stated in the summary for the IRL page in VSBW.

A different mentality like DarlingAurora's is required to scale things properly.

We should at least work with these parameters in this debate.

 

[JohnCenaNation]

that isn't deadlift & was in one hour though

Lifting an atlas stone is similar to a deadlift.

 

[DarlingAurora]

Lifting an atlas stone is similar to a deadlift.

you really think that a human can lift 30000 lbs?

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Lifting an atlas stone is similar to a deadlift.

My friend & I disagrees with JTGamer's profile here, but why did you knowingly put a 9-B with class K against a 9-C with class 1 LS? Were you trying to get a free win for CH?

 

[JohnCenaNation]

My friend & I disagrees with JTGamer's profile here, but why did you knowingly put a 9-B with class K against a 9-C with class 1 LS? Were you trying to get a free win for CH?

Gigantopithecus used to be 9-B here in VS Battles Wiki, so might as well use that as well.

 

[H3110l12345I20]

Gigantopithecus used to be 9-B here in VS Battles Wiki, so might as well use that as well.

That usually implies there was corrected &/or outdated information. 9-B isn't accurate for the big ape anymore.