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Fame vs Disipline: Retsu Kaioh (Baki) vs Suiryu (One Punch Man) - [4-0-0]

Delusionaltx2 said:
4x is alot but you can still damage that overtime

That depends on baki supps (more specifically, if its presise enough to bypass suiryu resisting piercing attacks) although he's normally capable of killing with his pressure points
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Well, resistance is a deadlock because you can't measure which is better in that regard, physically I don't know what I can do to damage it pressure points even kill those who are similar to Retsu, that might help
 
Just adding Retsu's abilities and techniques if they haven't been acknowledged.

In addition to his powerful Blows with Musunkei and Sunkei, he has his ranged air bullet to blind his opponents from a distance, which should help him close the distance to Suiryu.
Also, Retsu has Crushing Fist, which, according to the wiki, doubles his attack power by moving with his opponent's speed. I don't really remember this being specified in the manga; maybe it was very early? Nonetheless, this should close the AP gap a little.

Retsu also has access to the Mach Punch, which I know speed is equalized, but just looking at the Mach Punch being just a technique that greatly increases the user's speed, should also give him a speed advantage. In which Suiryu likely wouldn't be able to see it

Retsu likely has access to Sen no Sen, given that he could perfectly time and counter Katsumi’s Mach Punch. So this could help him make the move before Suiryu does.

Lastly, Retsu can also gauge how strong his opponent is by analyzing them, and can see any weaknesses they have. Retsu has showcased instinctive reactions as he can naturally deflect and counter attacks, as well as fight even when his brain has recovered from being rattled.

I am thinking his ability to see weaknesses, gauging his opponent's strength, instinctively reacting to attacks, and having sen no sen should minimize as much damage as possible. In addition to having defensive Shaori.

From my memory, I don't particularly remember Suiryu having any notable IQ or BIQ feats. I might be wrong, but if that's the case, he won't be able to exploit any weaknesses for Retsu, so Retsu should just wear him down.

EDIT: Retsu also has notable endurance feats too. He survived getting his neck snapped and snapped it back, and after getting his face and front sliced, he continued fighting Musashi and even got his fist sliced through until he eventually passed on.
 
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Jigoshi said:
Just adding Retsu's abilities and techniques if they haven't been acknowledged.

In addition to his powerful Blows with Musunkei and Sunkei, he has his ranged air bullet to blind his opponents from a distance, which should help him close the distance to Suiryu.
Also, Retsu has Crushing Fist, which, according to the wiki, doubles his attack power by moving with his opponent's speed. I don't really remember this being specified in the manga; maybe it was very early? Nonetheless, this should close the AP gap a little.

Retsu also has access to the Mach Punch, which I know speed is equalized, but just looking at the Mach Punch being just a technique that greatly increases the user's speed, should also give him a speed advantage. In which Suiryu likely wouldn't be able to see it

Retsu likely has access to Sen no Sen, given that he could perfectly time and counter Katsumi’s Mach Punch. So this could help him make the move before Suiryu does.

Lastly, Retsu can also gauge how strong his opponent is by analyzing them, and can see any weaknesses they have. Retsu has showcased instinctive reactions as he can naturally deflect and counter attacks, as well as fight even when his brain has recovered from being rattled.

I am thinking his ability to see weaknesses, gauging his opponent's strength, instinctively reacting to attacks, and having sen no sen should minimize as much damage as possible. In addition to having defensive Shaori.

From my memory, I don't particularly remember Suiryu having any notable IQ or BIQ feats. I might be wrong, but if that's the case, he won't be able to exploit any weaknesses for Retsu, so Retsu should just wear him down.
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@Kachon123
 
Defensive Shaori literally negates all of Suiryu's options here, especially since he aint got any ls.
 
Also, apparently Retsu is the one with Unknown LS....somehow? God, these profiles really are bad
 
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