Goku's Intelligence Revision

[Elizhaa]

Goku's Intelligence should be defined as Genius- from combat and tactical genius since Goku meet all the requirements.

Feats:

He can learn ki technique to such an extent that it is considered Power Mimicry (Can easily replicate other Ki-based techniques after seeing them once)

Goku is such a tactical genius that earns Precognition (By predicting Hit's movements by analyzing his style, Goku was able to react to his attacks even when he stopped time)

 

[Elizhaa]

bump

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

IDK

 

[Elizhaa]

I meant to do content revision

 

[Desmond253]

He already has all of these things in his profile what exactly do you want to add?

 

[Elizhaa]

I just want the profile to properly follow the intelligence categories that is accepted since based on it Goku should be a Genius.

 

[Desmond253]

but he does have genius in his profile " He is a genius in combat" is right in the intelligence section

 

[Elizhaa]

Preferably, it should be the top though and at least Highlighted which is the standard.

 

[Desmond253]

except he's not a genius outside of combat

 

[Wokistan]

Bolded intelligence is not the standard.

 

[Wokistan]

Also, intelligence is not a category that is applied consistently due to its nature. Explanations and feats do far more justice to the character than a not totally objective label.

 

[Elizhaa]

@Wokistan, preferably, the proper use of the keyword from the intelligence page accepted. The reason why this is standard is widspread is because it was accepted much later than most profile completion. While explanations and feats are supporting evidences are needed, a proper label is needed to prevent future confusion.

 

[Wokistan]

You don't though. Many of the files on the site don't. It's not an issue, but it is misleading to give Goku the ranking of genius when this is clearly not the case for general intelligence.

 

[Elizhaa]

It still would apply to Goku though

Genius: Individuals with an exceptional capacity for knowledge and intelligence, generally in one area of varying depth, often possessed by fictional scientists and strategists. This level of intelligence is the level of actual geniuses and famous intellectuals in the real world and, in lieu of better feats, should be the default intelligence category for fictional characters treated as if they have exceptional or superhuman intelligence.

 

[Wokistan]

Irrelevant. Strategist in this context doesn't refer to the sort of combat skill Goku possesses so much as it does to say, generals or someone who have to plan out fights and strategies in advance. Look at Khârn the Betrayer, another character who's proficient in combat like him. He is not misleadingly labeled as a genius, instead his intelligence section just explains his experience and skill.

 

[Elizhaa]

It does say that Khârn the Betrayer is a combat genius though.

 

[Elizhaa]

Strategists usually involved combat genius too and it is a thing in real life if you used historical contexts especially in war.

 

[Chartate101]

Joesph Joestar has genius purely due to combat prowess. Why is Goku so different?

 

[Wokistan]

His profile doesn't say this though:

Intelligence: Genius. (the rest of Kharn's justification)

Listing that Goku is a combat genius in his description is fine, as it is correct. What is not fine is giving him the overall category of genius, as that is misleading.

 

[Wokistan]

Laying traps and outsmarting smart people is more akin to the sort of "strategic genius" listed on the page, as opposed to Goku's "amazing at fighting". Goku's also been shown to be not super bright with regards to not fighting, so there's that.

 

[Elizhaa]

I would be fine win this:

Intelligence: Genius. (the rest of Goku's justification)

 

[Desmond253]

except outside of combat he's pretty dumb

 

[Elizhaa]

Goku's also been shown to be not super bright with regards to not fighting, so there's that.

That's mostly because, Goku never have a proper education.

The only thing that he study and master is the art of fighting where he is exceptional and genius.

Genius is focused generally in one area of varying depth which Goku applied. More, depth of knowledges would be higher than Genius Intelligence.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Thing is outside of fighting Goku is pretty...well let's just say he's not all that smart.

 

[Elizhaa]

ShadowWarrior1999, he still qualifies for genius though. Goku is more akin to ignorant in many areas outside of fighting; he is still a competent farmer. Besides, Goku got feats of defeating or outsmarting opponent such as Piccolo, Mr. Popo, Freeza, Cell and Beerus who based on this wiki Intelligence definition would qualify as Genius.

 

[Wokistan]

He's not going to get an overall rating of genius when that contradicts everything about him outside of fighting. Why he's not very smart doesn't matter. You cannot accurately describe him as a genius without specifying that this is with regards to combat.

 

[Elizhaa]

But, based on this wiki, you just need exceptional intelligence in one field of expertise. It doesn't need to be many. Plus, the characterization of Goku's intelligence in case other than fighting would be considered PIS.

 

[Wokistan]

You seem to be arguing to the letter of the guideline rather than to the spirit. I've already agreed that he is definitely a combat genius. What I do not agree on is listing him as that generally, as it is severely contradictory to literally everything else that Goku does with relation to intelligence.

 

[Elizhaa]

Then, a better clarification would be Genius in combat otherwise average.

 

[Wokistan]

His current justification seems fine, as it already says as much.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

Giving Goku the rating of Genius, feels both arbitrary and redundant, IMHO. We descibe him as 'a master of prodigal skill'. That right there paints a better picture than just Genius.

 

[Wokistan]

The super justification straight up calls him a combat genius as well.

 

[Antvasima]

I am fine with adding that he is a combat genius to the previous description, but would prefer more staff input first.

 

[Dzhindzholia]

Goku isn't genius in combat,he is just better than his opponents combat wise.

 

[AKM sama]

@OP

Just read the current justification:

"Goku is a master of prodigal skill when it comes to martial arts"

It's the same as saying "Goku is a combat genius".

And the rest of your points are also included in the current justification.

There is no need of repeating the same thing again and again. It will not make even a little difference to someone who reads it.

 

[Antvasima]

AKM sama is probably correct. We should likely close this thread.

 

[Quantu]

I agree this seems really unnecessary.

 

[Elizhaa]

I just wanted that the word genius be properly highlighted and stated to prevent further confusions as examply by some misinterpreting Goku intelligence in this thread.

 

[AKM sama]

Nobody is misinterpreting Goku's intelligence. It's well known that Goku is highly intelligent when it comes to fighting, and not so intelligent otherwise.

As for the profile, there is a great deal of exposition given about why he is rated as "a master of prodigal skill...". There should be no confusion in anyone's mind after reading it. The "genius" tag is unnecessary and makes it redundant, especially when it conveys the same meaning.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I agree with AKM sama and the others.