Kusuo Saiki Revisions…

[ShionAH]

I added the accepted stuff.

Now we wait for the 2-A/Low1-C and Plot Manipulation

 

[Antvasima]

Kusuo Saiki himself doesn't seem have any feats that remotely approach a Supergenius rating, and scaling him from beating his brother in a fight or via trickery is also not remotely sufficient to qualify. My apologies.

 

[ShionAH]

Kusuo Saiki himself doesn't seem have any feats that remotely approach a Supergenius rating, and scaling him from beating his brother in a fight or via trickery is also not remotely sufficient to qualify. My apologies.

We dont scale him for “beating his brother in a fight”

We scale him because even when Kusuke played thousands upon thousands of games (that requite intelligence) and even when Kusuos powers were nulled Kusuke couldnt win ONCE.

Not even once. Not even gonna talk about how he created a limiter himself without a problem.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Kusuo Saiki himself doesn't seem have any feats that remotely approach a Supergenius rating, and scaling him from beating his brother in a fight or via trickery is also not remotely sufficient to qualify. My apologies.

It may be sound a weird, but can u give the same input on this kusuo saiki intelligence crt. ? I do not intend to derail or promote my thread but it's related to saiki .

 

[ShionAH]

It may be sound a weird, but can u give the same input on this kusuo saiki intelligence crt. ? I do not intend to derail or promote my thread but it's related to saiki .

… You are derailing and trying to gain Ants attention so he will agree? Wow.

 

[Antvasima]

We dont scale him for “beating his brother in a fight”

We scale him because even when Kusuke played thousands upon thousands of games (that requite intelligence) and even when Kusuos powers were nulled Kusuke couldnt win ONCE.

Not even once. Not even gonna talk about how he created a limiter himself without a problem.

That doesn't matter. Just because somebody is better at chess than another person who can create universes and warp reality as they wish with their inventions, this does not mean that they actually qualify as being more intelligent without the feats to prove it.

 

[ShionAH]

That doesn't matter. Just because somebody is better at chess than another person who can create universes and warp reality as they wish with their inventions, this does not mean that they actually qualify as being more intelligent without the feats to prove it.

• Creating his own Limiters
• Defeating Kusuke in every single game possible with no Telepathy or hack used
• Knowing about other timelines and the entire Inf^Inf cosmology just by looking at one parallel universe that even Kusuke didnt know

You cannot simply change ratings from the profiles man… It takes us months to get that accepted.

 

[Edutyn]

You cannot simply change ratings from the profiles man… It takes us months to get that accepted.

If we take dates, from the first major revision we made.

It would be 282 days since the first one was created to this one.

 

[Antvasima]

• Creating his own Limiters
• Defeating Kusuke in every single game possible with no Telepathy or hack used
• Knowing about other timelines and the entire Inf^Inf cosmology just by looking at one parallel universe that even Kusuke didnt know

You cannot simply change ratings from the profiles man… It takes us months to get that accepted.

I have to change the intelligence statistics if they strongly contradict the intelligence standards that I largely wrote myself.

Creating limiters for tier 5 powers is not a Supergenius level feat, and neither is being better than Kosuke at many games of strategy. That usually just means that a character is a partial idiot savant, with very uneven intelligence depending on the area, and only being a supergenius in terms of invention skills.

However, quickly completely analysing an entire infinite cosmology of parallell universes just by looking at it likely qualifies as a Supergenius feat, but on its own, "At least Extraordinary Genius, possibly Supergenius" is likely all that it warrants, and then it actually needs to be listed and preferably linked to in Kusuo's intelligence section.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

• Creating his own Limiters
• Defeating Kusuke in every single game possible with no Telepathy or hack used
• Knowing about other timelines and the entire Inf^Inf cosmology just by looking at one parallel universe that even Kusuke didnt know

You cannot simply change ratings from the profiles man… It takes us months to get that accepted.

You did not just ignored ant's point on what saiki k can get on his intelligence and u directly used Atleast Supergenius as his intelligence rating.

He told you do phrase it like this. Your phrasing means he can have higher intelligence rating. Than supergenius.

"At least Extraordinary Genius, possibly Supergenius" is

 

[ShionAH]

You did not just ignored ant's point on what saiki k can get on his intelligence and u directly used Atleast Supergenius as his intelligence rating.

He told you do phrase it like this. Your phrasing means he can have higher intelligence rating. Than supergenius.

Ant was the one who added the “Atleast” lol. I was only changing the rating.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Use what ant said,

 

[ShionAH]

I have to change the intelligence statistics if they strongly contradict the intelligence standards that I largely wrote myself.

Creating limiters for tier 5 powers is not a Supergenius level feat, and neither is being better than Kosuke at many games of strategy. That usually just means that a character is a partial idiot savant, with very uneven intelligence depending on the area, and only being a supergenius in terms of invention skills.

However, quickly completely analysing an entire infinite cosmology of parallell universes just by looking at it likely qualifies as a Supergenius feat, but on its own, "At least Extraordinary Genius, possibly Supergenius" is likely all that it warrants, and then it actually needs to be listed and preferably linked to in Kusuo's intelligence section.

Kusuke directly states Kusuos Genius rivals his would that help with it?

 

[ShionAH]

I added some extra proof on the profile and made the Intelligence look fancy

 

[ShionAH]

C

Can you call some staff members for the Low 1-C/2-A here?

S

Can you give your opinion on the latest scan for 2-A and Plot Hax?

 

[Fixxed]

I added the accepted stuff.

Bruh.... our rule literally say you need minimum 2-3 staff agreement for added something, you cannot just have 1 agreement and then added it. Consider it has some controversial powerfull ability like subjective reality and probability manipulation

 

[Swordsaint456]

agreed!

 

[ShionAH]

Bruh.... our rule literally say you need minimum 2-3 staff agreement for added something, you cannot just have 1 agreement and then added it.

Minor hax additions only need 1.

Consider it has some controversial powerfull ability like subjective reality and probability manipulation

How the **** are those controversial? Conceptual Manipulation and Aca 4 are considered controversial.

 

[ShionAH]

bump

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

How the **** are those controversial

They are kind of.

 

[ShionAH]

They are kind of.

"Anything I imagine would come into existence is Subjective Reality" is controversial to you?

Stop lying. Explain to me how this ISNT subjective reality right now.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

"Anything I imagine would come into existence is Subjective Reality" is controversial to you?

Stop lying. Explain to me how this ISNT subjective reality right now.

Probability?
Also why so agressive, i smell a lil agressiveness

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Curse and Probability Manipulation: (Saiki has the to make a curse that caused everything to always hit Kaido)

Also this only curse manipulation, that's the curse effect which is making him hit the shin, not by probability Manipulation, stop adding abilities in the name of other abilities.

 

[Antvasima]

Kusuke directly states Kusuos Genius rivals his would that help with it?

Yes, definitely, but you need to add that information to Kusuo's page.

 

[ShionAH]

Also this only curse manipulation, that's the curse effect which is making him hit the shin, not by probability Manipulation, stop adding abilities in the name of other abilities.

Twilight realizing one feat can have two different abilities at the same time like Kusuos mind hax

 

[ShionAH]

Probability?

Making everything hit someone in a specific part of their body no matter the probability...

Also why so agressive, i smell a lil agressiveness

Its how us turks text

 

[ShionAH]

Yes, definitely, but you need to add that information to Kusuo's page.

I added it as supporting evidence on the profile

 

[Antvasima]

I added it as supporting evidence on the profile

Thank you. A Supergenius intelligence statistic is probably fine then.

 

[ShionAH]

Thank you. A Supergenius intelligence statistic is probably fine then.

Do you mind evaluating Dark Graths opinion while you are here? Especially on the Plot Hax and 2-A

I also want to ask do you know any Tier 1 mods that can help me here since this CRT contains a Low 1-C

 

[Antvasima]

I do not really have the time to evaluate lots of regular content revision threads, but I usually trust DarkGrath's sense of judgement.

 

[ShionAH]

I do not really have the time to evaluate lots of regular content revision threads, but I usually trust DarkGrath's sense of judgement.

If pings are working can you ping sum?

 

[Antvasima]

What do you need evaluated much more elaborately and specifically, and which staff members have helped out here already?

 

[ShionAH]

What do you need evaluated much more elaborately and specifically, and which staff members have helped out here already?

The 2-A and Low 1-C Stuff most importantly.

@DarkGrath and @DontTalkDT

Maybe some opinions on the Plot Manipulation additions

 

[ShionAH]

Especially DT ignored this.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Can somebody write a single explanation post that contains all of the information that needs to be evaluated by our staff please?

 

[ShionAH]

Okay. Can somebody write a single explanation post that contains all of the information that needs to be evaluated by our staff please?

Its all inside the OP explained, the 2-A is basically accepted. I just need a confirmation to add it while the Low 1-C is still not accepted

 

[ShionAH]

Metafictional Stuff

• Main Character
  • In the alternate universe Saiki Kusuo erased Nendo and did some actions that lead to his series being cancelled and forced him to go from being the protagonist to a side character
  • This caused Mikami to be the protagonist and give him some serious plot based powers...
    • The scenes will not end until Mikami enters them in a dramatic fashion
    • Everything Mikami says will always be the truth no matter what because he is the main character
    • Even when Mikami says something wrong eventually he will be in the position where he is "right"
  • Haganeno also has these main character powers since he was changing the literal plot and the classification of the novel itself into a hero novel
  • These abilities should be given to Saiki aswell since he is the main character
• Sight Energy
  • ‘Sight’ is an ability born out of a feeling of distress or uneasiness generated in this world’s supreme observers. In other words, it’s an energy transferred from the reader’s brain to the book the moment they get the feeling that something’s off. It’s energy that exists in a completely different dimension from superpowers.
    • Haganeno used the ‘sight’ energy to make the boundaries between universes hazy. And then put all of those worlds together once he had gathered enough energy.
      • The cosmology consist of infinite parallel universes with each having infinite probable future that branches off to different universes with each small decision made
    • He was planning on using this energy to completely change the series from "The Disastrous Life of Saiki Kusuo" to "My Hero Studies"
    • Haganeno was planning on taking over the novel and series using sight energy
  • Sight Energy is 5D. It comes from the "readers" mind
    • The "Readers" are always depicted as people who read and see the entire universe as a two dimensional paper, a manga, a novel, and as simple two dimensional text
• Psy Energy
  • Psy energy is the energy Saiki's have, they were able to fuse their powers because it is impossible for them to do it on their own even without limiters. They used this massive energy to create a distortion equal to one made by Sight Energy
• 5 Dimensional Hax
  • Saiki's all have Psy energy which is supposed to be the core of their powers
  • With enough energy Psy can make a distortion equal to one made by Sight Energy which would make it so Psy Energy at its peak can rival five dimensional power sources
  • Saiki already has shown that he can use his Telepathy, Psychometry on the readers themselves
    • He shows this 5D hax feats so many times
  • We also have an direct confirmation about how Saiki can gain abilities from the "readers" on fly

Canonity of the Novel

• The Readers show that the Manga and the Novel exists in the same continuity
• Saiki also shows that he knows the existence of the manga
• Most importantly, Nendo literally talks about a promise he did all the way in Volume 2 of the manga

Counter Arguments!

• "But we see that Saiki sees the novel as an actual novel in the manga so it means it isnt real?"

First of all Saiki breaks the fourth wall regurarly so him suddenly showing us the novel does not mean the entire novel was actually two dimensional, plus by this logic this would make Saiki High Hyperversal

• "Saiki needed powers of his alternate version to create the distortion!"

Which is why its not one of his base stats and will be stated that he can only do it if he is given enough power

• "Why would Saiki gain five dimensional hax if R>F does not give HDE?"

Well right now R>F page states

"For example, if a character were to view an entire space-time continuum as fiction, they would be superior to such an extent that finite, or even basic infinite, differences in power cannot overcome their superiority. Thus, they would be treated as more than infinitely greater, such as in this case Low 1-C. The gap between the higher world and the lower world would be strictly one of quality, not quantity."

and

"Potential mediums for viewing a cosmology as fiction include: written media (Books or stories), images (Paintings, comics, or movies), data (Simulations or video games), or mental constructs (thoughts or dreams). All of the above would be considered less 'real' than the person who views the cosmology as such, and can directly imply qualitative superiority."

So unless the page will be changed this would give five dimensional hax, though if the page changes then I will agree and remove the 5D hax.

At the very least Sight Energy feats would be 2-A for affecting infinite universes rather than being Low 1-C because they come from the readers depending on how the standarts work for "power sources"

@Antvasima This basically

 

[Fixxed]

How the **** are those controversial? Conceptual Manipulation and Aca 4 are considered controversial.

Yes it controversial, consider it already talking about some abstraction like possibility and a power that can directly affect reality

 

[Antvasima]

@Antvasima This basically

Okay, and should I call for DarkGrath and DontTalk to evaluate it then? Or have they already evaluated it, and if so, what did they think?

 

[ShionAH]

Okay, and should I call for DarkGrath and DontTalk to evaluate it then? Or have they already evaluated it, and if so, what did they think?

DarlGrath should look at 2-A after my latest scan I sent him and Plot Manipulation

DT disagrees and I doubt he would agree lol, can you call someone people for the Low 1-C maybe? Thanks