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by the same amount, not equalized. his reaction speed stays just as superior to his base speed in speed equalized as it does without speed equalized.
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Sans vs Perfect Cell
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The opponent always starts with a level 1 SOUL with 20 HP in undertale matchups, and even if Cell had 99 HP (Which is maximum), Sans can still kill him relatively quickly.
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I get it now. That's a pretty stupid rule, no idea how that got accepted. But with that in question, it honestly doesn't change much. It just means Sans can dodge Cell's individual small attacks without much trouble. His stamina is still pathetic, his agility is low, and he can't dodge out of a giant blast radius. It change's essentially nothing.
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But yeah, Cell has all his Combat, Reaction, Attack Speed, Flight Speed, etc are all Mach 6 to match Sans' Speed
Sans is Mach 6, Mach 11 reactions and Gaster Blasters
Sans is Mach 6, Mach 11 reactions and Gaster Blasters
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Average stamina?
I guess yes.
Yes assuming cell doesnt die before that
The_Pink_God
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I also very much doubt Cell starts nuking Sans with a City-ranged attack
He was cocky against Goku that was like on his level, Sans is way weaker
Cell would try to play with Sans
He was cocky against Goku that was like on his level, Sans is way weaker
Cell would try to play with Sans
ShionAH
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If thats true I might go for sans here
Cell has a soul and everything right? So its basically same as the frieza match
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Yeah, you guys realize this is the same dude who stood and attempted to face tank Vegeta's Final Flash because he wanted to **** with him before realizing the Final Flash would actually hurt, right?
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Cell would probably even start letting Sans hit him, and we know what would happen if that was the case
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Where is that said literally anywhere? That's equally as ludicrous as the new speed equalization.Versus Thread Rules
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The opponent always starts with a level 1 SOUL with 20 HP in undertale matchups, and even if Cell had 99 HP (Which is maximum), Sans can still kill him relatively quickly.
Even with that it still isn't enough to say Sans wins. You're focusing on what Sans can do and not what Cell can do. Cell can literally kill Sans by doing anything that could be considered an attack on Cell's part, and could easily avoid any of Sans' attacks without much effort. We'd still need to assume Cell just becomes an idiot and stands still for a matter of seconds, and that he apparently wouldn't feel the pain of his soul being attacked during this timespan.
So basically, the list of unfair advantages here:
Sans gets faster reaction speed because of a nonsensical rule. Cell is assumed to apply to UT's rules and has only 20 HP because of a nonsensical rule. And Cell becomes OOC and just lets Sans do what he wants for the first few seconds of the fight (at least).
With all of that in question, it's still a debate of whether or not Sans can win. And this isn't a stomp?
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Perfect Cell standing there, watching a thermonuclear bomb of sans undertale bones flying in on his position:
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Compare it to that of a DB character like Cell and it's pathetic. Relatively my friend.
He is lazy and explicitly supposed to be a guy that tries moving as little as possible. His agility is pretty much as low as can be.
Him dying before that is the assumption, as it assumes he lets himself get hit.
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Lol
Cell like they said will tank and see sans as a pathetic opponent, even if he attacks he wont start off with a nuke and something else that sans can dodge
Lol alright buddy
So what would you propose? Cell should have how much? We don't know. We assume 20 since he has no feats of making
Is that OOC?
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You mean the shit he does in-character against people he perceives as weaker than him? Remember when he just let Mister Satan punch him a bunch of times and that guy is technically even stronger than Sans is?
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Cell knew Goku was weaker and Goku himself knew he was weaker, Goku wasn't on his level and Cell didn't think he was. Sans is a mysterious walking skeleton that Cell could tell is unnatural, he would be somewhat on-guard in character.
He'd think Sans is probably weak but note that this is an unusual creature, and would react accordingly to what happens therefor. He wouldn't try to play with Sans nor kill him on sight. But that doesn't mean he'd just stand there and let Sans kill him.
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That has been a thing for like a year now lol
Yes, he can, but he won't because of his massive cockyness
Yes Cell is an idiot because he literally thinks he's the strongest ever, must I add how he let Vegeta hit him even when knowing full well that would hurt?
Also how can Cell "easily avoid" Attacks that are like, almost twice as fast than his reactions?
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I dunno dude, if a DB character had an infinite speed attack while being mftl you wouldn't be calling it dumb would ya?
Cell has to apply to UT's soul rules since the DB soul rules don't contradict them.
If Cell consistently stands there and let's those who he thinks are weaker then him hit him, then he's going to do same verse same as the first here.
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What is there to suggest he regretted it? He was surprised because it was a Ki blast he hadn't seen before (Dr. Gero, cells, knows all Z Fighter techniques), not because of its power. Besides which, he knew Vegeta was vastly weaker.
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He would feel pain and then flee, then kill Sans afterwards. It isn't an insta-kill.
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It's stupid fast in Sans' case however
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No, he was surprised at the last possible second because he realized that the Final Flash was actually going to hurt him despite him Face Tanking literally all of Vegeta's other attacks.
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I dunno man, Frisk earlier in the Genocide Route killed Undyne, and she's pretty damn agile seeing as she knocked Asgore on his ass
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It's a ridiculous rule that deliberately gives an advantage to a slower character.
That doesn't mean he'll stand there long enough to die.
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Yes, you assume 20. The fact that he's being applied to UT's rules like that is already an assumption. To only apply some of UT's rules and not the rest is the problem, as it gives Sans an unfair advantage deliberately when we know Cell has killed even more than Frisk would have.
Standing still and seeing what Sans can do isn't, standing still and letting himself die is.
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Sans takes like, give or take 5 seconds to kill someone with 92 HP
Cell in this scenario would have 20
I think the same moment he feels pain is the same moment he dies
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Having his reaction speed reduced doesn't mean he can't process the pain of the attacks fast enough to get out of it.
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"What's this?"=He doesn't know the attack.
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And sans opens with TK slamming(Soul-based) into the ground then bringing bones up that kill Cell in less then a second. This is why he won against Frieza.
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That means nothing because we're talking about Sans and not Undyne. He's dodging via speed/predictions, not agility.
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0.83 seconds to be exact
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And the fact he won against Frieza is even more silly.
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It's still dodging someone who killed an agile character lol
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0.83 seconds to someone who processes the world at mach 6.
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But he won
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Very agile of her to stand still and get hit until she died. It means nothing my guy, Sans has no agility.
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Anyways gotta go to work. Might respond later idk.
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Mald harder mate, if you have time to complain you have time to get it changed.
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That's not how the battles work at all lmfao
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