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The Biggest Disney CRT in History (Part 1)

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So, it's come to this. Months of research leading to this moment. For years, the mouse has been in purgatory. Resigned to only his theatrical shorts, but no more. Today, we bring the mouse higher. Today, we chant the name of our king. M-I-C-K-E-Y. M-O-U-S-E. You know him. I don't think there's a single person on this entire wiki who doesn't. The most popular cartoon character of all time -- Mickey Mouse finally has the definitive draft of his profile. Now, cartoon profiles, especially ones as composited as Mickey, are notorious for having inconsistent tiering. However, I believe I have created a solution that works for just about everyone. I have separated his tiers into multiple keys. One for each era.

We will also be covering other characters who are affected by these changes as we go along, as well as a new profile for his companion character, Donald Duck.



Now, here are the biggest changes.

Toon Physiology​

I've shot my shot for High-Godly. Didn't work. But I do believe Mid-Godly is still valid for all toons considering Mickey was not the exception in the regeneration of paint. The Fabulous Five achieved the very same feat. Whether or not you buy Donald's erasure regen (an argument was made that he simply duplicated himself which is dubious considering Donald has never shown this ability, and a more probable explanation is that he respawned in a different location), this does remain as supporting evidence, and considering Toons as a species are notorious for not being able to die permanently, this should be applicable for all of them.

Original Era​

Of course, the biggest change here is speed. Donald has recently had a relativistic calc that was accepted, upgrading Mickey's combat speed via scaling to that as well.

Goofy also is able to wrangle in an elephant, which warrants Class 10 as well.

As seen on the profile, the original era includes Castle of Illusion, which includes a feat where Mizrabel the witch creates and disperses of a storm in a short time, warranting Small Country level results. However, Mickey is only able to match her once he has collected the Gems of the Rainbow, and this is a plot point of the game.

Overall, our stats amount to the same as it was before in AP and Dura, an additional Relativistic combat speed calculation, Class 10, and Small Country level with the Gems of the Rainbow. Easy peasy.

Epic Mickey​

The series from EM 1+2 gets it's own key here and with the Petetronic fight as explanation, Mickey is strong enough to handle the boss, which is stated to be much superior to regular Pete, implying Mickey becomes stronger over the course of the game. He also gets all the hax from the game in this tier as well, most notably the magic paintbrush.

Eisner Era​

The Eisner Era is essentially accounting for the big shift in the verse's direction around the 90s to Mid-2000's and how expansive the world of the toons have become with spin-off media such as Ducktales, Darkwing Duck, Chip n' Dale Rescue Rangers, and more mainstream entries such as House of Mouse

The Eisner Era's highest calc is Mountain level. Considering the verse before this is at City level+, this is consistent with the verse.

Now for Ducktales scaling, which should be easy enough to comprehend. Launchpad McQuack is a main cast member in Darkwing Duck and Ducktales, and his profile, he is accepted to be comparable to Darkwing and to Scrooge as well in all tiers. Goofy is shown to be far faster than the Beagle Boys, who are Scrooge's main enemies in the show, scaling him to Darkwing's relativistic+ feat. In this short, Scrooge also acknowledges how athletic and strong Goofy is, putting him in a high regard and he can contend physically with the Beagle Boys as well, so we can also say that if Darkwing is Class P in LS, and Launchpad is as well, then Scrooge, then Goofy should also scale, and the main Mickey cast who is comparable to him. The Ducktales and Darkwing supporting cast need to be updated to match Darkwing and Goofy's scaling.

The Power of Illusion hax and upgrades belongs in this tier as well as it takes place before Mickey meets all the crossover Disney characters in House of Mouse.

Modern Era​

Here comes the big one. I've amassed quite a bit of planetary evidence for the Paul Rudish shorts. While previously an outlier to the verse, secluding these feats to the era that they appear in makes it quite a bit more consistent. Even the lower feats in the series match Tier 6 at least in that category. So where does Mickey land? Brown Dwarf level. Officially. And given the progression of the series, it's consistent. There's also a FTL feat and a better Class P feat to boot. So, now we have an idea of where Mickey Mouse scales. It took years. But we did it.

Agree: Accelerated_Evolution, Tonygameman, Ebihara, Da3ggman (fine at a glance), Propellus, DarkDragonMedeus
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I’ll look over this in a bit, but this seems at a glance.
 
Agree + Support. Also will Kingdom Hearts be considred Canon as the IP is technically owned by Disney?
Nope. KH has different lore than the main continuity.

Most you could possibly get from that is KH being a video game in-verse due to some Keyblade cameos but it’s best not to derail the thread with stuff like that since that’s not what this is focused on.
 
low 1-c for everyone. /s
Most you could possibly get from that is KH being a video game in-verse due to some Keyblade cameos but it’s best not to derail the thread with stuff like that since that’s not what this is focused on.
Actually since they view the entire verse as fiction it would be Tier 0.
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KH has WoG that actively disproves the idea of canonicity to original Disney canons (except Toy Story, but that's too separate for the purposes in here), especially if we go with any sort of "Disneyverse" that has been pushed in recent years (cough House of Mouse, Chibiverse, and Wish).

https://www.khinsider.com/news/Kingdom-Hearts-3-Ultimania-Main-Nomura-Interview-Translated-14763
—We were surprised at how the plot of the Pixar worlds were continuations of the original movies.

Nomura: Originally, the basic pattern of the KH series was that Sora and the others get involved in scenes that depict the happenings of the original films. The Tangled and Frozen worlds fit that description. However, with Toy Story and Monsters Inc., upon request from the creators, we went with a pattern of depicting a period set after the movie as an "authorized history." Which pattern a world would follow depended greatly on the ideas of the creators and producers of the movies.

Plus you'd end up with stuff like this

At best one could argue it simply exists somewhere as somehow the basic cosmological structure doesn't contradict what's set on Wish, but it'd be easier to get a cosmology of note with Gravity Falls, especially as the Book of Bill canonizes the Chibiverse.
 
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At best one could argue it simply exists somewhere as somehow the basic cosmological structure doesn't contradict what's set on Wish, but it'd be easier to get a cosmology of note with Gravity Falls, especially as the Book of Bill canonizes the Chibiverse.
Wish somewhat differs from how the Mickey Mouse & Friends canon handles the Disney stories but if we can figure out where Once Upon A Studio fits in that canon, then I think it would be easier to work out a cosmology, especially with the DTVA being more connected.
 
You forgot to count DDM's vote. But anyway, it seems uncontroversial to apply
 
I think that it seems very unwise to mash together scaling between several different distinct continuities, such as the original DuckTales cartoon and the Italian or Northern European comic book stories. 🙏
 
I think that it seems very unwise to mash together scaling between several different distinct continuities, such as the original DuckTales cartoon and the Italian or Northern European comic book stories. 🙏
No one is arguing for the abroad comic book stories, however, the original DuckTales cartoon and the Disney Afternoon universe is distinctly connected to the Mickey Mouse mainstream canon.

The rest of the comics stand by their own continuities, especially the old Scrooge McDuck stories.
 
No one is arguing for the abroad comic book stories, however, the original DuckTales cartoon and the Disney Afternoon universe is distinctly connected to the Mickey Mouse mainstream canon.

The rest of the comics stand by their own continuities, especially the old Scrooge McDuck stories.
Okay, but when I checked the edits in our wiki, the different canonicities seemed to be mixed up for some characters, such as Scrooge McDuck. That needs to be fixed. 🙏
 
Okay, but when I checked the edits in our wiki, the different canonicities seemed to be mixed up for some characters, such as Scrooge McDuck. That needs to be fixed. 🙏
This will be the subject of Part 2 of this CRT, which will be focused on spin-off material in the Disney Afternoon block. The current duck profiles with the sole exception of Darkwing’s require a much more thorough cleaning on a fundamental level.
 
Thank you very much. It would be great if all of them get separated statistics for incompatible continuities. 🙏❤️
 
I was asked to close this thread. 🙏

 
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