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WandaVision MCU Spoiler Discussion Thread

I wouldn't put it beyond Marvel to bring back Ultron in some shape or form. He is a pretty huge character in the comics and it would be odd to see him go after just a single movie.
 
Coming back to life is pretty much a staple of Ultron’s character, so there’s no way he won’t return at some point.
 
I wouldn't be shocked in the slightest if ultron's consciousness forms within Vision's memories and takes over his body or some other huge self revival like that.
 
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New official promo images
 
Looked around did some research and there's really not much out there regarding these promo images but there's no high quality versions out, looks like someone on Twitter leaked these new promo images out. From one article about it with the user who leaked them out and that's it nothing more other than a few tweets about the images
 
Well probably have a better look over the week but I'll keep an eye out in case they drop, they have dropped the new funko pops and figures with her new costume so I would imagine with those out there trending on twitter that these HQ versions will follow soon
 
That's pretty soon so that's good news and supposedly yet unsuprisingly the actors for Billy and Tommy have been seen around the area where they're filming MoM
 
Guess we'll have to wait for a new good pic. Good news for MoM. That's by far the Marvel movie I'm excited the most to see. I want more Doctor Strange and magical/eldritch stuff in the MCU.
 
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should we work on the profiles for Agatha, Billy, Tommy, Monica, and changes to Vision now? Maybe even Jimmy?
I think we can. I'm currently working on one for Agatha, who's going to be Unknown honestly (still need some elements like Stamina, Speed and Lifting Strength).
 
Vision literally has no changes unless some of the feats he's shown get calced to be higher than any of his current stats. Aside from that, all he needs is an image for his new resurrected white appearance.
 
Vision literally has no changes unless some of the feats he's shown get calced to be higher than any of his current stats. Aside from that, all he needs is an image for his new resurrected white appearance.
We can use his funko pop as a image💀💀💀
 
Vision literally has no changes unless some of the feats he's shown get calced to be higher than any of his current stats. Aside from that, all he needs is an image for his new resurrected white appearance.
What about his ability to break people free from Wanda's control?
 
I think Vision should get data manipulation added to his profile, as well as mind manip resistance and negation beings he was able to pull people out of the
 
A tiny fraction of Wanda's energy was able to empower a new Vision that can match the old Vision in combat. Shows how powerful she is.
I finally got around to watching the last 2 episodes.
(Yes, I'm aware the revision finished. My not having watched the episodes until recently was why I wasn't there nor here. Sorry.)

Since it seemed like an earlier point of contention that may still be of concern, I should clarify currently that I do not disagree with Wanda having created the Hex, & indeed, think of her as responsible for the vast majority of supernatural events within it.

Forgive my asking, but when did this occur?
Also, what is the origin of the turkey? If it's generated from her own powers, Manipulating real world entities may not be as easily applicable for her as with the turkey. In such a case, the ability should be noted as within The Hex.
Regardless, turning a turkey into eggs is also likely Biological Manipulation, & possibly Age Manipulation (Usually, a singular turkey isn't born from multiple eggs, nor does it turn into multiples when it dies of old age.) as well as Creation/Life Manipulation. (Because multiple eggs.) There may also be Teleportation involved, depending on how the other Eggs got there. It likely wouldn't be just Time Manipulation, as the CRT's list presents it, I think. But that may be a matter for future CRTs.

I saw someone mention using the statement of Wanda being stronger than the Sorcerer Supreme, but that statement wouldn’t really be helpful considering that Strange is a High 7-C right now.
Speaking personally, that statement both frustrates & intrigues me.

A lot of speculation points to Wanda being a villain at the center of Multiverse of Madness. Strange beat Dormammu through cleverness.
Playing to Wanda's compassion to the world had her end the Hex.

If Wanda is indeed stronger than Strange, then it would be a retread for him to win through intelligence, & internally inconsistent for him to win through power.
So, how will he win, if at all, I wonder? Would he play to her value of her family? Make her give up that delusion? Help her create a real version of it despite her supposedly being more powerful?


Also, I deeply pity Agatha Harkness. Trapped under Mind Control in Westview, & likely no one else knows her fate. She seemed like she had potential, & for all her selfishness & expoloitativeness, she did make some efforts to help Wanda, & show her what she did wrong.
But here, she has a fate arguably worse than death.
I suppose it was a means by the writers to just put her on a bus until needed, since her character archetype seems kind of redundant with Loki's?


Also, have we established the basises for Monica's profile, yet? Is there a place to discuss that? I feel it might be out of place in Falcon & The Winter Soldier unless she shows up there, & the next movie to feature her won't be for a while yet, right?
 
I don't know if Wanda will be the real villain of MoM. I think she will try to find her children but this will cause a huge amount of problems (that and the fact that her newfound powers might make her unstable) and it will attract the attention of some dark force (like Nightmare or even Mephisto) that will try to use the situation at their advantage (and there will also be Mordo in the middle). She will probably meet with Strange when he will try to understand what she's doing or something like that, he will offer to form her and from there, problems ensue.

About Agatha, I have absolutely no pity for her. Her fate is horrifying but from what we saw, she's just an egotistical, power-hungry, murderous and manipulative witch who had no good intention. Although to be fair, I have no pity for most characters in general so...
I think the writers did that because they wanted to give Wanda someone she could use to learn more about Magic. Like a tool she would have at her disposal to increase her knowledge of Magic. Maybe she will appear again in MoM.

About the profiles, there have been discussions about Monica yes. I'm also preparing one for Agatha.
 
I don't know if Wanda will be the real villain of MoM. I think she will try to find her children but this will cause a huge amount of problems (that and the fact that her newfound powers might make her unstable) and it will attract the attention of some dark force (like Nightmare or even Mephisto) that will try to use the situation at their advantage (and there will also be Mordo in the middle). She will probably meet with Strange when he will try to understand what she's doing or something like that, he will offer to form her and from there, problems ensue.

About Agatha, I have absolutely no pity for her. Her fate is horrifying but from what we saw, she's just an egotistical, power-hungry, murderous and manipulative witch who had no good intention. Although to be fair, I have no pity for most characters in general so...
I think the writers did that because they wanted to give Wanda someone she could use to learn more about Magic. Like a tool she would have at her disposal to increase her knowledge of Magic. Maybe she will appear again in MoM.

About the profiles, there have been discussions about Monica yes. I'm also preparing one for Agatha.
I hope she is, or at least one of the villains.
 
Since it seemed like an earlier point of contention that may still be of concern, I should clarify currently that I do not disagree with Wanda having created the Hex, & indeed, think of her as responsible for the vast majority of supernatural events within it
Nah this was pretty unanimously agreed upon since it was pretty blatantly shown she did it.
Forgive my asking, but when did this occur?
Episode 8 within like the last 10 minutes
It likely wouldn't be just Time Manipulation, as the CRT's list presents it, I think
She rewound Time at least 2 other times in those earlier episodes so it's not just the eggs that granted her that ability.
In such a case, the ability should be noted as within The Hex.
There is no evidence showing she can't use that outside of the Hex, she's blatantly shown and said to be one of the strongest being with crazy hax plus she's still able to do things like transform/create her scarlet with costume when the hex is down so we have more evidence that not all abilities require the hex. I think that should stay as is until otherwise noted in Dr. Strange
 
Butt y doe.
I'm of the same thought I don't want her to be a villain after all that😭 it'd be better to see more power from her and Dr.Strange as the work to take on mystic threats and beings who can like threaten Earth or reality
 
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