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STRONGEST One-Punch Man (Anime version) Discussion Thread

EnderLord8

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Welcome to the temporary discussion thread for the One-Punch Man anime. Here, we will better organize the creation of profiles for the anime, its scale, feats, and statements.

Creating this separate thread from the original one is to avoid derailing the original thread and to better organize profiles for the anime...


Calculations:


Profiles:
  • Saitama (x), Initial draft
  • Genos ( )
  • Garou ( )
  • Tatsumaki ( )
  • Lord Boros ( )
  • Orochi ( )
  • Gouketsu ( )
  • Suiryu ( )
  • Sonic ( )


Scaling:
Speed:
  • Saitama >= Boros (Meteoric Burst) = 0.5667c (Relativistic+) feat
  • Saitama > Sonic (1 Season Max Speed) > Genos (Season 1) = Hydrated DSK = 44.08 Mach (High Hypersonic) feat

AP:
  • Saitama > CRSC >= 59.44 Zettatons (5-B)
  • Lord Boros/Orochi > Gouketsu >= Z city Meteor = 55.6 Teratons (6-B+) feat
  • Elder Centipede (Durability) > Metal Knight AP = 10 Kilotons (7-C) feat

LS:
- Mosquito Girl = 3.98 tons (Class 5) feat

Theorical Scaling:
Speed:
  • Saitama >= Boros (Meteoric Burst) > Flashy Flash = 259.456c (MFTL) feat
  • Ninja Duo = 1.0212c (FTL) feat
  • Saitama > Sonic (1 Season Max Speed) > Genos (Season 1) = Hydrated DSK = 44.08 Mach (High Hypersonic) feat

AP:
  • Saitama > CRSC >= 59.44 Zettatons (5-B)
  • Lord Boros/Orochi > Gouketsu >= Z city Meteor = 55.6 Teratons (6-B+) feat
  • Gouketsu > Bakuzan > Suiryu = 60.43 gigatons (6-C+) feat
  • Deep Sea King (Hydrated) >= Genos (1 Season) = 207.9 megatons (7-A) feat >= Armored Gorilla

LS:
- Gouketsu > Bakuzan > Suiryu = 348.81 tons (Class K) feat
 
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Joking aside, I believe we should start with Saitama's profile, since he seems to be the easiest, as he would have at least a 5-B AP right off the bat, relativistic~FTL speed, and a Class P LS.
 
Shouldn't this be posted to Wiki Page Collaborations?
 
Moved it over there as it seems most fitting. Good luck with the anime profiles.
 
Assuming our calculations are correct...

- 1 season Genos scale to 7-A (207.9 Megatons)

- Suiryu scale to Class K (348.81 tons) and 6-C (60.43 Gigatons)

- Sonic and Hydrated DSK scale to High Hypersonic (Mach 44.08)

This would make anyone above the Demon disaster level, 6-C+, with High Hypersonic speed and Class K lifting strength.
 
EnderLord8 said:
Flashy Flash vs Ninja Duo speed ( )
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There is this one, not sure if it's accurate though.

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Ninja Speed OPM (Anime)

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EnderLord8 said:
Meteor Destroy Z city ( )
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We can use the manga version here. (the distance is the same, it won't make a difference)
EnderLord8 said:
Tatsumaki Meteor feat ( )
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This is a weird one, since it wasn't ONE's intention, but it's considered true in the anime's guidebooks.

Even then, the destruction wasn't massive. I mean some might argue it's because of Tatsumaki or that because it hit a specific target ig?
EnderLord8 said:
Geryuganshoop black hole gravity feat ( )
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Saitama just gets resistance.
EnderLord8 said:
Metal Knight Missiles (x), Needs evaluation
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It was already evaluated, the person just retired. It should still be fine to use.
EnderLord8 said:
Hydrated DSK moves among the slowed-down raindrops (x), Needs evaluation
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This was also evaluated, no?
 
MrTayman616 said:
There is this one, not sure if it's accurate though.

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Ninja Speed OPM (Anime)

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cool
MrTayman616 said:
We can use the manga version here. (the distance is the same, it won't make a difference)
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okay (y)
MrTayman616 said:
This is a weird one, since it wasn't ONE's intention, but it's considered true in the anime's guidebooks.
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I don't think that matters since it's the anime version.
MrTayman616 said:
Even then, the destruction wasn't massive. I mean some might argue it's because of Tatsumaki or that because it hit a specific target ig?
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Well, we could argue in favor of KE perhaps; that's also good for achieving a feat of range and speed, since Tatsumaki pulled a meteor from space.
MrTayman616 said:
Saitama just gets resistance.
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Not really, I've seen several examples of calculations based on gravity, so it should be applicable.
MrTayman616 said:
It was already evaluated, the person just retired. It should still be fine to use.
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Well, I assumed the calculation is from 2018 (eight years ago), so I don't know if our current metrics would change anything, but I believe they are still usable.
MrTayman616 said:
This was also evaluated, no?
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Same reason as above, except instead of 2018 it's 2021.
 
Considering that Flashy has the greatest speed feat... Is there anything that puts the anime version of Saitama above Flashy?
 
EnderLord8 said:
Well, we could argue in favor of KE perhaps; that's also good for achieving a feat of range and speed, since Tatsumaki pulled a meteor from space.
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Range and Speed is fine, AP isn't.

We don't apply KE when the scale of destruction is too different as far as i know.
EnderLord8 said:
Not really, I've seen several examples of calculations based on gravity, so it should be applicable.
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"Gravity of a black hole" is meaningless since it heavily depends on the mass of a black hole and it's distance from the person.

Also, Moon feat would probably give higher LS and stuff.
EnderLord8 said:
Well, I assumed the calculation is from 2018 (eight years ago), so I don't know if our current metrics would change anything, but I believe they are still usable.
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EnderLord8 said:
Same reason as above, except instead of 2018 it's 2021.
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They're still usable as far as i know, but changes that were decided for the wiki would be applied if there is one.
 
MrTayman616 said:
Range and Speed is fine, AP isn't.

We don't apply KE when the scale of destruction is too different as far as i know.
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I know, it's just that, we don't even know the KE value yet, so it would be good to calculate it before deciding if it's an outlier. You could also calculate the volume of earth/stone vaporized by her attack.
MrTayman616 said:
"Gravity of a black hole" is meaningless since it heavily depends on the mass of a black hole and it's distance from the person.
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IDK, when I was researching similar feats, I saw that there were calculations about this, maybe using gravity as a basis from the point where the escape velocity exceeds that of light... I don't know...
MrTayman616 said:
Also, Moon feat would probably give higher LS and stuff.
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Oh, I'd forgotten about that, the Moon Jump is a feat of LS as well, I think I even did a calculation about it at some point.
MrTayman616 said:
They're still usable as far as i know, but changes that were decided for the wiki would be applied if there is one.
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Okay, for now let's consider the calculations as applicable, and if a problem arises, we'll apply the change.
 
EnderLord8 said:
Considering that Flashy has the greatest speed feat... Is there anything that puts the anime version of Saitama above Flashy?
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Boros on the blue ray notes of 1st season has a statement for his Ultimate Form which says his speed and power is "beyond the physical limits of what any living being can endure". Maybe that could work to put Boros' Meteoric Burst above FF
 
JustANormalPerson01 said:
Boros on the blue ray notes of 1st season has a statement for his Ultimate Form which says his speed and power is "beyond the physical limits of what any living being can endure". Maybe that could work to put Boros' Meteoric Burst above FF
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That is... I suppose a Boros upscaling would work.
 
EnderLord8 said:
Scaling:
Speed:
  • Saitama >= Boros (Meteoric Burst) = 0.5667c (Relativistic+) feat
  • Saitama > Sonic (1 Season Max Speed) > Genos (Season 1) = Hydrated DSK = 44.08 Mach (High Hypersonic) feat

AP:
  • Saitama > CRSC >= 59.44 Zettatons (5-B)
  • Lord Boros/Orochi > Gouketsu >= Z city Meteor = 55.6 Teratons (6-B+) feat
  • Elder Centipede (Durability) > Metal Knight AP = 10 Kilotons (7-C) feat


Theorical Scaling:
Speed:
  • Saitama >= Boros (Meteoric Burst) > Flashy Flash = 259.456c (MFTL) feat
  • Ninja Duo = 1.0212c (FTL) feat
  • Saitama > Sonic (1 Season Max Speed) > Genos (Season 1) = Hydrated DSK = 44.08 Mach (High Hypersonic) feat

AP:
  • Saitama > CRSC >= 59.44 Zettatons (5-B)
  • Lord Boros/Orochi > Gouketsu >= Z city Meteor = 55.6 Teratons (6-B+) feat
  • Gouketsu > Bakuzan > Suiryu = 60.43 gigatons (6-C+) feat
  • Deep Sea King (Hydrated) >= Genos (1 Season) = 207.9 megatons (7-A) feat >= Armored Gorilla

LS:
- Gouketsu > Bakuzan > Suiryu = 348.81 tons (Class K) feat
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I updated the OP with some of the current scale we have with the approved calculations and some of the theoretical scale, assuming the unverified calculations are correct.

Please let me know of any observations or additions so I can add them to the scale.
 
is there a big difference between the anime and the manga to warrant an anime profile?

also I thought webcomic profiles were in the works
 
Without season 3, no. With Season 3, technically yes (in the worst way possible).
They mixed pre-redraw and post-redraw content, so this is technically a unique version of OPM with its own continuity.
 
MrTayman616 said:
How many fights changed though?

It isn't that different imo.
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The issue isn't just about the fights, but the story itself. Multiple characters who wouldn't have died in the manga and would have had significant future importance died, and considering what we know about part 2 of the third season, it seems the webcomic's route will be followed, which is a pretty drastic change.
 
EnderLord8 said:
The issue isn't just about the fights, but the story itself. Multiple characters who wouldn't have died in the manga and would have had significant future importance died, and considering what we know about part 2 of the third season, it seems the webcomic's route will be followed, which is a pretty drastic change.
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DragonZeroNova said:
Without season 3, no. With Season 3, technically yes (in the worst way possible).
They mixed pre-redraw and post-redraw content, so this is technically a unique version of OPM with its own continuity.
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Very interesting, thank you.

I suppose this is fine, though, has Season 3 concluded yet? Isnt this jumping the gun a bit?
 
EnderLord8 said:
The issue isn't just about the fights, but the story itself. Multiple characters who wouldn't have died in the manga and would have had significant future importance died, and considering what we know about part 2 of the third season, it seems the webcomic's route will be followed, which is a pretty drastic change.
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There are only two changes as far as i know. Phoenix Man and Narinki squad. Orochi's case is basically extra scenes + cut scenes. The resurrection God thing is still there, just not explained.

If the webcomic is followed, then maybe. We'd see it a year later though? maybe sooner with trailers.
 
MrTayman616 said:
There are only two changes as far as i know. Phoenix Man and Narinki squad. Orochi's case is basically extra scenes + cut scenes. The resurrection God thing is still there, just not explained.

If the webcomic is followed, then maybe. We'd see it a year later though? maybe sooner with trailers.
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Orochi has practically everything from the pre-redraw, only the ending with the mural is there but very cut, then there are other differences in the combat like G5 which manages to hold its own against Atomic Samurai more than in the canon version and incredible powers like Zombieman with telekinesis!!,Atomic Samurai with teleport and everyone with the power of the disco etc👀
anyway from the dialogues it seems that they will follow the webcomic to get to the second part Garou vs Saitama even if the stuff doesn't make any sense
 
Raiden38 said:
Orochi has practically everything from the pre-redraw, only the ending with the mural is there but very cut, then there are other differences in the combat like G5 which manages to hold its own against Atomic Samurai more than in the canon version and incredible powers like Zombieman with telekinesis!!,Atomic Samurai with teleport and everyone with the power of the disco etc👀
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Orochi's fight is, but story wise it is still the same.

Someone lasting a few sec more just for it to end the same etc. I don't think the changes are massive enough to create new profiles. It's just my opinion though.
 
MrTayman616 said:
Orochi's fight is, but story wise it is still the same.

Someone lasting a few sec more just for it to end the same etc. I don't think the changes are massive enough to create new profiles. It's just my opinion though.
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even if in the canon version to counter the gaia cannon Saitama uses a serious move and then takes it down which for me is definitely better than what Orochi does in the pre-redraw version who is simply taken down with a simple punch and FINE they cancelled Do-s who could potentially still be alive and Phoenix man who is still alive and we will see him again later...for me however this season 3 is enough to make an anime only section then seeing that they will most likely take the webcomic for the second part given the dialogues I think it's fine
 
I just remembered that Gouketsu in the anime stated that in the MA there are monsters that are easily as strong as him, supported by the blueray notes. Although it is unknown who he referred to, it could be used to scale, at least as a possibly, the cadres, given they are the strongest known monsters of the MA
 
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