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Meruem vs the Doom Slayer

How does his poison transmit? It's the only way I can see meruem winning. He would not be able to do any decisive damage other wise.
 
Also what's the exact number for mereums lifting strength they are in the same class but doomguy is borderline class G.
 
I'm not too knowledgeable on Meruem, but as DTG said, the precognition isn't going to affect Doomguy since he's been in a similar position before, with a race looking through infinite possibility to find a way to kill him, to no avail.

Both do have the same range but doomguy's only applies to his weapons, which in this key are 8-A at best, so Meruem technically has the advantage in that regard.

As for Meruem bombarding Doomguy with tendrils, etc, the Slayer isn't going to stand there examining the battle, he's going for the kill immediately, as he always does, so the fight will not be prolongued enough for Meruem to get stronger.

Not voting yet but just thought i'd share some thoughts.
 
This happened before the events of the 2016 game, so I doubt it's because he surpasses them because they gave his eternal self trouble (While not a lot), so they should logically be stronger than his 2016 self.
 
And they were observing these infinite possibilities before doomguy even received the blessing, hell , even before doomguy was born they were watching these timelines. They also have the ability to time travel.
 
>They also have the ability to time travel

Was there anything stopping them from killing Doomguy as an infant or is he just acausal?
 
Acausality, resistance to precognition on the cosmic level, passive fate hax. All of these are on the table right now. It could be one or two of them combined or just all three but we know for certain it's going to be one of the three.
 
SpookyShadow said:
If he has acausality then Meruem's precog works because it's based on analysis not literal fate foresight
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The resulting function is the same thing essentially.
 
We have evidence for it being resistance to precog. Throughout the campaign of doom eternal the makyrs are constantly caught by surprise and shock by the things Doomguy does, meaning that they had no idea what we were going to do.
 
No. Precognition based on analytics, body movements et cetera et cetera is different. Acausal guy is immune to precognition based on absolute future foresight like the shit Julius Novachrono has, for example. You can still predict their movement by analytics and patterns.
 
SpookyShadow said:
No. Precognition based on analytics, body movements et cetera et cetera is different. Acausal guy is immune to precognition based on absolute future foresight like the shit Julius Novachrono has, for example. You can still predict their movement by analytics and patterns.
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Right, predictions. You can't predict doomguy.
 
The example you gave is literally a guy who can predict future events. Which is what the makyrs were doing on an infinite level. It is not NLF if you have people who are able to see all infinite timelines and possibilities with stated omniscient clarity, I don't see any other form of predictions that would work on him.
 
He brought up Julius to distinguish Meruem's precog from Julius', which is why Acausality Type 4 is meaningless to him. Meruem will read Doomguy's personality in battle and will immediately know his bias and his preferences, even if it's so miniscule that it could be considered nonexistent. Again, his precog is not true precog since he can't actually predict the future. It simply comes from the insane skill that Meruem has and his genius intellect.
 
DTG's reasons seem pretty sound. King can't really resist a BFG shot and Doomguy will be constantly on the move and trying to kill him. Prediction is hard and Doomguy has spent centuries fighting, nothing he has is that big of a threat to him.
 
Yeah, resisting someone looking into the future is different from someone looking at your movements and predicting your moves.
 
Yes it does! What? Cosmic precognition is the same thing as precognition based on prediction, the cosmic one is just much higher level of it. The makyrs would be able to know any move someone would do and favor in any situation. Except doomguy.
 
00potato said:
DTG's reasons seem pretty sound. King can't really resist a BFG shot and Doomguy will be constantly on the move and trying to kill him. Prediction is hard and Doomguy has spent centuries fighting, nothing he has is that big of a threat to him.
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The BFG isn't doing anything to Meruem, and have you seen Meruem vs Netero? Doomguy constantly being on the move means literally nothing. Experience doesn't matter because Meruem has way more skill than Doomguy.
 
00potato said:
DTG's reasons seem pretty sound. King can't really resist a BFG shot and Doomguy will be constantly on the move and trying to kill him. Prediction is hard and Doomguy has spent centuries fighting, nothing he has is that big of a threat to him.
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Centuries fighting doesn't mean much at all. All I've ever seen Doomguy do is plough through demons showing no sign of extreme skill whatsoever. Regardless of whether BFG shot works or not, it won't land. The prediction isn't hard either, Meruem can do it under a minute for Isaac Netero who's cognitive bias is so minute it's almost non-existent.
 
The BFG isn't doing anything to Meruem, and have you seen Meruem vs Netero? Doomguy constantly being on the move means literally nothing. Experience doesn't matter because Meruem has way more skill than Doomguy.

The heat would vaporize him,meruem has never dealt with heat like the BFG.
 
>Withstanding a nuke in Low 7-C state without being vaporized

>Withstanding Zero Hand with little damage

NLF to its finest. It doesn't even vaporize 8-A characters with single shot.
 
00potato said:
There is no real evidence of heat, just brightness, so the BFG still deletes him.
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Tyrants shrug it off no problem, and they are 8-A and don't have resistance to heat manipulation.

BFG is 8-A in AP, and the durability required to withstand it was calced to be at that level. Meruem is 7-B, so he isn't getting a scratch from it. I don't see durability negation on BFG's profile either.
 
So what everyone here is telling me, is that the makyrs could not use their precog in the same exact way as meruem? When they are both looking at infinite possibilities except the makyrs are looking at each and every one with omniscient clarity.
 
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