Fairy Tail Fodder X792 Upgrade/Adjustment

[Remus1998]

Currently we have X792 fodder characters, specifically Alvarez soldiers, being scaled to Large Island level, possibly Multi-Continent level due to Wendy's statement that they're above anything she's faced in both numbers and power, placing them above the likes of the likes of GMG Dragons (144.5 Gigatons) as well as the Quantum Army and Gapri (Downscaled to 4.435 Petatons).

During the latter half of the Alvarez-Ishgar war, Irene uses an enchantment to buff the Alvarez Soldiers to the degree that a single sword swing was capable of launching Erza back a considerable distance with another soldier being capable of harming her. It is noted that Irene states that their power has been amplified by "several times over", this is further proven by the face they can easily overwhelm Fairy Tail's minor members who are shown to be able to fight numerous Alvarez soldiers at a time.

This highlights that Alvarez soldiers are only several times weaker than the likes of Erza and those who scale to her, with several meaning "more than 2 but not many", rather than several tens of thousands of times weaker than their High 6-C ratings would suggest so they should be scrapped entirely.

So with that in mind, the new value for those who scale would be 6.7 Petatons if we go with Irene's enchantment being a "3x" multiplier.

As the title mention will effect fodder characters in X792 only.

Agree: Zackra1799, DailyFairy, Eseseso, AnonymousBlank, KingTempest, LoudestProcedure, DragonZeroNova, Random-Helper323,

Imaginym​

Disagree (I will find you):

Neutral:

 

[Remus1998]

This better not take even a tenth of time it took to get the last Fairy Tail CRT accepted

 

[Zackra1799]

Yeah, this is an easy agreement from me, they should scale to base Erza with the Beserk Enchantment since in the scans mentioned, Erza receives damage to her face after being thrown to the ground and can survive hits from clear heart Erza and slightly damage her.

For the Soldier's normally and those that scale, I think it would be fine to backscale them by 3x from the berserk enchantment, as even while normally they can tag and slightly damage base natsu with their attacks, so they would be 6.7 petatons if we use this method

 

[Remus1998]

Yeah, this is an easy agreement from me, they should scale to base Erza with the Beserk Enchantment since in the scans mentioned, Erza receives damage to her face after being thrown to the ground and can survive hits from clear heart Erza and slightly damage her.

For the Soldier's normally and those that scale, I think it would be fine to backscale them by 3x from the berserk enchantment, as even while normally they can tag and slightly damage base natsu with their attacks, so they would be 6.7 petatons if we use this method

You know what? that also works

 

[DailyFairy]

Yeah, this is a pretty easy agreement from me as well, but I do have a question based on the their rating

Where are you getting the 6.7 value from? Are you downscaliing by 3 from another value?

 

[Zackra1799]

Yeah, this is a pretty easy agreement from me as well, but I do have a question based on the their rating

Where are you getting the 6.7 value from? Are you downscaliing by 3 from another value?

Base Erza and Natsu both scale to the Etherion Calc (20.1 Petatons). With the berserker enchantment, they scale to Base Erza, and the enchantment boosts their power by several times (3x). Then backscaling them to 1/3 the value of the Etherion calc makes them 6.7 Petatons, a minor statistic change

 

[Eseseso]

This makes sense.

 

[DailyFairy]

Base Erza and Natsu both scale to the Etherion Calc (20.1 Petatons). With the berserker enchantment, they scale to Base Erza, and the enchantment boosts their power by several times (3x). Then backscaling them to 1/3 the value of the Etherion calc makes them 6.7 Petatons, a minor statistic change

Yeah ok, that's what I was assuming that was about. I was confused originally cause I was taking that x3 an applying it to the 4.435 value

But yea, like I said, I agree to this adjustment

 

[DailyFairy]

Does something like this need staff agreements btw?

 

[Arkenis]

two, possibly three unless ft isn't controversial. IIrc there's a mod who was working on ft but they've stepped down so not sure who else follows anything.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Imo after the last CRT, Fairy Tail should be taken off the controversial list if it's still there.

 

[DailyFairy]

two, possibly three unless ft isn't controversial. IIrc there's a mod who was working on ft but they've stepped down so not sure who else follows anything.

Probably talking about Mitch. He was the biggest FT supporter mod we had

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Agree with OP and Zackra’s proposed figure.

 

[DailyFairy]

Just basing this off of op, but that's 4?

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Just basing this off of op, but that's 4?

4 what

 

[DailyFairy]

4 what

Votes towards agreement

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Oh yeah. No staff votes though, unfortunately.

 

[DailyFairy]

Oh yeah. No staff votes though, unfortunately.

Yeah true, but some motion is better then no motion so

 

[KingTempest]

I disagree

Spoiler: My Disagreeal Reason

This looks good you have my agreeal

 

[Zackra1799]

I disagree

Spoiler: My Disagreeal Reason

This looks good you have my agreeal

Let's disagree to agree to disagree to agree to disagree to agree to dis... ad infinitum

 

[DailyFairy]

I disagree

Spoiler: My Disagreeal Reason

This looks good you have my agreeal

 

[Remus1998]

Do I need to wait 12 hours after approval to apply a revision?

 

[DragoZeroNova]

It's 24 hours for very small stuff, 48 for a normal revision (I would consider this to be normal, based on past experiences.)
With that said, you only have 1 staff approval so you'd need another 1

 

[Remus1998]

My kingdom for a mod, my kingdom for a mod

 

[LoudestProcedure]

I agree

 

[Shadowslash125]

Imo after the last CRT, Fairy Tail should be taken off the controversial list if it's still there.

That discussion hasn't been locked yet, and you can probably waltz in and speak your piece, provided you already got permission from staff.

 

[DailyFairy]

My kingdom for a mod, my kingdom for a mod

They got bro out here chanting for mods

That discussion hasn't been locked yet, and you can probably waltz in and speak your piece, provided you already got permission from staff.

If you're referring to the weakest spriggan one, im pretty sure that got closed

 

[Shadowslash125]

If you're referring to the weakest spriggan one, im pretty sure that got closed

Popular/Controversial Verses and the Determination Thereof

I mentioned this idea here when (at least one) user(s) complained that guidelines on what constitutes a popular verse wasn't clear, in regards to requiring a greater staff presence to pass CRTs. I am not aiming to create specific guidelines, that they are vague leaves it to our judgement rather...

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[DailyFairy]

Popular/Controversial Verses and the Determination Thereof

I mentioned this idea here when (at least one) user(s) complained that guidelines on what constitutes a popular verse wasn't clear, in regards to requiring a greater staff presence to pass CRTs. I am not aiming to create specific guidelines, that they are vague leaves it to our judgement rather...

vsbattles.com

I'm confused at what you're trying to say here. We know it's on the list still

 

[Shadowslash125]

I'm confused at what you're trying to say here. We know it's on the list still

I mean it's not locked and you can argue for its removal from the list, like how I did with Kamen Rider. You just need to hit up a staff member.

 

[DailyFairy]

I mean it's not locked and you can argue for its removal from the list, like how I did with Kamen Rider. You just need to hit up a staff member.

OHHHHHHHHHH

I got confused then. I thought you were saying that previous Spriggan CRT wasn't locked. I didn't even realize that popular verses one was open

Disregard my previous statement then

 

[Remus1998]

Could someone please contact a mod?

 

[Remus1998]

PLEEEEEEEEEASE MODS I NEED THIS

MY THREAD KIND OF DESOLATE

 

[DailyFairy]

PLEEEEEEEEEASE MODS I NEED THIS

MY THREAD KIND OF DESOLATE

 

[DragoZeroNova]

You can just put this crt on their walls

 

[Random-Helper323]

This seems okay. Well thought out overall.

If this stays stuck too long like the last one I can ping some mods. We try not to ping too much though.

 

[Remus1998]

This seems okay. Well thought out overall.

If this stays stuck too long like the last one I can ping some mods. We try not to ping too much though.

THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's 2 mods, now we wait 24 hours

 

[Random-Helper323]

THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's 2 mods, now we wait 24 hours

Sorry, no. I'm a content mod. Only thread mods and higher have votes. I can and will ping them if needed though. I can help move things, but that's all.

 

[Remus1998]

Sorry, no. I'm a content mod. Only thread mods and higher have votes. I can and will ping them if needed though. I can help move things, but that's all.

Oh... okay... that's fine
Could you ping them please... if that isn't too much trouble

 

[Random-Helper323]

Oh... okay... that's fine
Could you ping them please... if that isn't too much trouble

I try not to ping too much, since it throws too much at mods and overworks them.

If it's still going on after too long I will do it though, since we can't have this thread take as long as the last one. Keep trying for a bit, okay? I assure you I won't let it drag on indefinitely.