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The scaling on this site is a little wonky honestly. You have Renji who has a justification that he can fight Kenpachi equally yet Kenpachi has a justification he can fight Yhwach, so Renji can potentially fight Yhwach even though he couldn’t beat Bazz B and his scaling doesn’t show it?
It’s sad because you’re expecting Kubo to answer anything related to power scaling when he doesn’t even know this wiki exists. Just be happy he’s answered what he has that can help Bleach VB
@Arc7Kuroi, whenever the speed revisions come around, could you do a calc of Liltotto, Meninas and Giselle dodging Candice’s lightning she fires at them after they crash into her?
@Arc, does the info on the Irazusando mean anything new scaling wise? Would it still be a LS feat for Ichigo or are we still waiting for any new info that might come out in the next cour?
So like can anyone provide a concrete reason on why Kenpachi didn’t just take off eye patch off to finish off a bunch of characters who were that much weaker than him according to vs battles stats?or is it just chalked up to PIS?
Can y’all imagine if Kenpachi simply took off his eyepatch and became as strong as the real Yhwach? He would’ve creamed the the Bambi’s instead of being put into the ground like he was lol
Thank you my friend lol. Was there another point in the novel where Tokinada did tank a Getsuga from a weaker form of Ginjo? Just asking cause his profile states he tanked a Getsuga
Does anyone mind telling me the context of what happened when Ginjo hit Tokinada with a Getsuga “that rivaled Ichigo’s strongest?” Like did he get hit and tank it, or divert it somehow?
@Arc, is there anything that involves people later in TYBW that affects any current speed scaling? The only other feats are Yhwach’s beam down to SS and Mimihagi’s fear of shooting up to SS. What’s stopping you from making a revision about characters that don’t affect that?
I will say the reasoning that Unohana states Kenpachi has 3 people in Byakuya, Renji, and FB Ichigo who could rival him should be dropped. Blatantly wrong that the OP acknowledges that Byakuya and Renji aren’t on his level and calls it irrelevant but then assumes the strongest form for FB Ichigo...
I think either FB Shinigami Ichigo's or Ginjo’s speed need to be fixed for the time being. Looking at it, it makes no sense Ginjo is MHS+ to Sub Rel while Ichigo is only MHS to MHS+. I know speed revisions aren’t a major thing atm but this would just be a minor correction
Assuming Yhwach can summon at least his elites if need be and the fact that speed is equalized, what’s stopping Askin from doing the same thing he did to Oetsu? Oetsu blitzed the **** out of everyone but Askin who could at least barely react and then proceeded to poison him and would’ve killed...
@Arc7Kuroi , I know you’re waiting for more info from four 3 regarding the SK, but currently would Ichigo’s feat of withstanding the weight of the realms be only the planets? Or would it be a universal lifting feat?
Never thought I’d disagree with a Bleach thread but I do. OP states it’s stated to reality warp things on a universal scale but that’s never stated. If that was the case why didn’t Aizen just use it to become the SK and make the universe the way he wants it?
The only problem I see is that Zangetsu has displayed abilities Ichigo hasn’t( he might in the anime) namely Cero, Hierro, high speed regeneration and Sonido. But if we can just chalk it up to Ichigo having them then I agree with the thread 100%
I’d say it’s a similar case with his Blut where...
The case with Isshin I can believe, more so because I swear there was a statement that he had more spiritual pressure before he lost his powers than when he regained them. So it stands to reason he was more powerful before he lost and regained his powers
What’s funny is I’m pretty sure you can pixel scale the size of the SK Palace using Ichibei’s city that has a ton of mountains in it that make up just a small portion of his entire city disc in the center, and still come up with a decent size of the entire SK palace
@Arc, I’m surprised you...
With the upgrade to the SK palace to SS distance, it means Yhwach’s feat would now be FTL which can’t be calced using KE from what I understand. Arc correct me if I’m wrong lol
@Arc, with the new distance for SK palace to Seireitei, even though it’s just a supporting feat but it makes Yhwach lifting the Wandenreich unusable doesn’t it?
I could see Aizen getting a possibly, along with a possibly for CFYOW Kenpachi and Hikone
will still always find the power creep of Kenpachi weird. Man unlocked all his potential and gained a Shikai plus Bankai yet is still in the realm of strength of people he’s always been comparable to. Then...
Either way it’s an insanse LS feat for Ichigo. Though not sure anyone other than SK and SK Yhwach would scale since those are the only other two to withstand that weight
I will say though, it’s crazy how strong a causal Ichigo’s Getsuga Juujisho was considering it was leaving the Seireitei looking like Gremmy’s meteor when it came in. And only solidifies how strong he his while holding back massively considering in CFYOW Liltotto thinks Hikone’s cero could...
Won’t lie, Zaraki cutting off his arm isn’t that good considering it’s practically a sneak attack. He doesn’t do anything noteworthy after. I’m not saying Byakuya scales to Kenpachi or Gerard but honestly none of them scale to Gerard. Base Kenpachi got casually shield smacked by Gerard too and...
@Arc, is there a chance you can calc Gerard’s size of his forms and Kenpachi pushing his first giant form back? Realized that’s never been done and I’m sure Gerard is drawn a lot larger than Yammy ever was
or is it like a wait another year or 2 for the anime to show it? I get it, but at the...
I think it’s referring to lifting strength. She did casually pick up a giant rock with full buildings on it with one hand while Kenpachi needed to to push back Giant Gerard. Though I’m not sure how the weight of those two compare to each other
How is he gonna get a buff? He’d still just scale to 1 Yottaton considering patched Kenpachi who’s 20 Zettatons is stronger than both RG Byakuya who had his Bankai swept aside and knocked out with a shield and RG Renji who got put down with a breath attack.
What do you mean? One of his best feats is clowning on the Bambi’s while being extremely casual. And extremely casual is appropriate given in CFYOW the strongest of the 4 Liltotto states that even though Hikone was trying to kill them and thought a single cero would vaporize her, she said Ichigo...