Kusuo Saiki, Final Revision (?)

[ShionAH]

Welp. I think its the end.

You can click here for the ability additions

This is mostly done by the man himself @Edutyn so props to him and I do not take credit for it

• Agree: 4 (@Edutyn, @Eseseso, @StrymULTRA, @Georredannea15)
• Disagree:
• Neutral:

 

[Eseseso]

Looks fine to me!

 

[ShionAH]

Looks fine to me!

How would this work in VsThreads?

• Instinctive Reaction (After doing the same thing over and over again in a time loop, Saiki started to be able to use his powers without thinking)

 

[Edutyn]

obviously disagree

 

[StrymULTRA]

Man I hate those [translation] on his profile.

Regardless I find that Info 2 kinda iffy but I don't really care about it. Rest seems good.

 

[Georredannea15]

Agree FRA

Olm Shion sal şu çarı artık aw

 

[Dereck03]

Light Manipulation (Gesture, Is able to generate and control a rainbow from a gift box)

Disagree. First of all, I don't know how to create a rainbow is light manipulation when a rainbow itself is not light but a reflection of light in water droplets.

Instinctive Reaction (After doing the same thing over and over again in a time loop, Saiki started to be able to use his powers without thinking)

This seems fine to me, but it seems that this is limited to when saiki is pushed beyond his limits continuously to the point that he mindlessly uses his powers.

Damage Boost, Statistics Reduction, Statistics Amplification (Tought, Similar to other characters that can boost their attacks, increase their speed or that of others or reduce the damage of enemies along with their speed)

I have no complaints with this but, the game is canon to the anime or manga or whether this falls into game mechanics or not.

Chaos Manipulation (He is able to activate Ragnarok[1][Translation 1], the selective event of humanity[2][Translation 2], the next demise day[2][Translation 3])

Disagree, first there is no indication other than 2 texts that have no correlation whatsoever to how the ability would be used once used nor do I see that it works under our description for chaos manipulation.

Conceptual and Information Erasure (Type 3 Concept - Type 2 Information, Destroyed the delusion program[3][Translation 4] and threatened to erase everything inside the Illusion world which is stated to be[4][Translation 5] abstract[5][Translation 6]. It was shaped depending on what each character trapped by Kusuke thought of themselves. It contained their delusions and ideas such as Teruhashi being a goddess[6][Translation 7] or Kaido being Jet Black Wings[1][Translation 8]. Kusuo says that when his classmates[7][Translation 9] are released they will feel a sense of losing the "saved data"[7][Translation 10])

Agree with Cm 3 but disagree with info 2. There is nothing here to indicate that there is any piece of information that qualifies in our standards, at most it would be something abstract but nothing related to information.

Sealing Negation (Gesture, Released his friends that were sealed inside a small gem)

Disagree, how does summoning characters from a gacha summon is sealing negation?

Corruption, Information Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2 Corruption - Type 2 Information - Type 3 Concept, He was not affected by True KusuΩ[8][Translation 11] who used the delusion program to bring back the delusion[8][Translation 12]of everyone[8][Translation 13]. The delusion program takes[9][Translation 14] the[10][Translation 15] desires[10][Translation 16] and ideas of individuals[11][Translation 17] and materialises them[11][Translation 18] into a delusion world of its own, corrupting the individual to be ruled[12][Translation 19] by their desires[8][Translation 20])

Disagree with Type 2 info and agree with the rest.

Piercing Damage (Saiki notes that guns nor sharp objects would work against him)

Fine.

But all this depends whether the game is canon to the main source.

@DontTalkDT your help here would be appreciated.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Welp. I think its the end.

You can click here for the ability additions

Why would this game be canonical for Saiki?

 

[ShionAH]

Why would this game be canonical for Saiki?

There is an entire episode about it, I will sleep and go to school and etc so @Edutyn can explain it better

Disagree. First of all, I don't know how to create a rainbow is light manipulation when a rainbow itself is not light but a reflection of light in water droplets.

What would it be?

 

[ShionAH]

Agree with Cm 3 but disagree with info 2. There is nothing here to indicate that there is any piece of information that qualifies in our standards, at most it would be something abstract but nothing related to information.

Would “the feeling of losing saved data” imply Information Manipulation?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

There is an entire episode about it, I will sleep and go to school and etc so @Edutyn can explain it better

What episode?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

There is an entire episode about it, I will sleep and go to school and etc so @Edutyn can explain it better

Actually I remember.

But why would the game's events be canonical to the manga?

Firstly, does the episode exist in the manga?

Is there any source saying that the game's events are canonical to the manga or Saiki's story?

And even if it existed in the manga, what would be the proof that it is canonical? Within what is shown, the protagonist doesn't even have Saiki's name or appearance (Saiki used hypnosis for this), and the game he played (to advertise for the real game) doesn't even work like the real game.

Besides, aren't they even the same games?

The scans you use are from this game, and the anime episode is about this game.

Unless there's another episode that talks about the 2018 game that I'm missing.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Yeah, ehh... this is using non-canon stuff. And not just that, but non-canon stuff that is probably impossible to check in context as it doesn't have any complete translation as far as I am aware.
And since the anime isn't canon either, any evidence from that is irrelevant too.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Yeah, ehh... this is using non-canon stuff. And not just that, but non-canon stuff that is probably impossible to check in context as it doesn't have any complete translation as far as I am aware.
And since the anime isn't canon either, any evidence from that is irrelevant too.

Some of the things in the profile use also anime stuff like the Shockwave Creation in 3rd key.

 

[ShionAH]

Some of the things in the profile use also anime stuff like the Shockwave Creation in 3rd key.

I think you can use the Anime if its consistent with the manga

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Some of the things in the profile use also anime stuff like the Shockwave Creation in 3rd key.

Kusuo's profile is made up of all 3 sources in one single profile ( ln ,manga, and anime) isn't it.

 

[StrymULTRA]

Kusuo's profile is made up of all 3 sources in one single profile ( ln ,manga, and anime) isn't it.

Ye.

 

[ShionAH]

Again I repeat

Anime can be used if consistent. The reason why Kusuo got the 5-C kid feat accepted was literally that.

If you keep derailing I will report to RVR

 

[Robo432343]

umm

The Disastrous State of Saiki K.'s profile

Saiki's profile is in need of various revisions, but this thread will focus on the most basic one: Remove all the non-canon stuff from the profile. Let's get started. The anime isn't canon Not sure what else to say about this. Given, I think it's only used for some scans that can be replaced...

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