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John Wick's 9-B calcs are no longer valid since we don't use glass destruction values anymore.
Are there any feats worth calculating that could be well into 9-B?
Deathstroke is 9-B+ now so this works.
13.7 megajoules vs 10.5 megajoules
Speed equalized, standard battle assumptions, 9-B+ versions.
Deathstroke: 0
Daredevil: 3 (Soma_King, Lacku, StekFence)
Inconclusive: 0
The fight we were robbed of in the Hawkeye finale.
Round 1 Hawkeye with his standard arrows vs Kingpin (Kingpin has prior knowledge of the capabilities of Hawkeye's arrows), Round 2 Ronin outfit vs Kingpin
Speed equalized, standard battle assumptions
Hawkeye scales to 4.09 megajoules while...
MCU street tiers are too strong for Green Arrow but I didn't realize this was a perfect match AP wise. Idk if the arrows would give Oliver too much of an advantage, I'll change it to someone like Deathstroke if so.
Speed equalized, they have knowledge of how each other fight but not sufficient...
Since the Supergirl revisions aren't going to start anytime soon without Greenshifter, I'm bringing this up.
Alright this is going to be painful.
Let's start with the minor stuff first, shall we?
Season 7 and 8 keys
Who the **** even watches the show at this point?
So, like a lot of people I...
Thought this would be an interesting fight. Although Nobu beat Daredevil and Daredevil beat Kingpin, I feel like it isn't simple A>B>C scaling as they each have their own advantages and disadvantages. Kingpin doesn't have the agility or endurance of Daredevil but he does have his armoured tuxedo...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/White_Dragon_feats_(Peacemaker)
I'm iffy on them scaling to White Dragon's full blast since Peacemaker only took an amplified punch, but the first calc should scale.
Now they can fight Marvel street tiers.
Yondu Udonta should just be 8-C at best. Star-Lord is just "at most 8-C" only, and Yondu was never really implied to be physically far stronger than him as the page claims, at least not on the level of Drax or Groot, his reputation is mostly due to the Yaka Arrow.
Also, I think we might as...
About time we've made a CRT for the Hawkeye TV show.
So firstly people made a some calculations for different Hawkeye arrows, the highest one being the helicarrier one in the first Avengers movie.
Kingpin also has a 9-A feat now
There seem to be conflicting reports on whether Kingpin is...
Have been rewatching both shows
9-B, speed equalized, standard conditions
Daredevil: 7 (UchihaSlayer96, Mariogoods, Maverick_Zero_X, Transcending, Coolboy6, Rez, Peppersalt43)
Green Arrow: 0
Inconclusive: 0
This might actually work with the comic version, since Bucky's arm is baseline 8-C so not enough to one-shot, while Yang Guo is physically stronger. Yang Guo has a lot of the chi and pressure point bullshit from Chinese martial arts, but Bucky is an insanely skilled martial artist himself too...
https://vsbattles.com/threads/mcu-falcon-captain-america-crt.128396/
Apparently in this thread we said that all vibranium is equal. However, the reason Black Panther is not listed as 6-C (btw the 8-B rating is outdated should be 8-A) is that the vibranium protection he wears is just laced onto...
Came across this when evaluating some calcs. On the Large Size Calculations page, it is said that the old method of upscaling speed from size is invalid and either use GBE or the speed the character actually shows on screen. However, the Kinetic Energy standards we have at the moment says we...
Can't believe this has yet to be fixed, but the MHS calcs for DC Comics are straight up wrong and have been known to be wrong for like 2 years.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/DC_Speed_Feats_Recalculations_%2B_New_Calculations
Calculations to pick from...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Iron_Man_pushes_a_helicarrier_rotor_recalc?commentId=4400000000001050309
I only recently noticed this comment and I agree, a slight downgrade from 8-A to 8-B+
The current Lord of the Rings 6-B rating comes from the feat of Osse lifting Elenna-nore: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Amelia_Lonelyheart/Middle-earth:_Osse_raises_Elenna-nórë
The calculation uses gravitational potential energy. However, per our revised rules after a revision a...
This has been for a long time but applying Karathen's full KE as the strength of Aquaman (and the DCEU top tiers in general) is wack. But before the revision thread I want everyone interested to help find feats that can possibly replace that one.
So far I have (potential outliers included)...
This was semi-brought up before, but anyway, the way we currently rate animals is rather inaccurate. First thing is that their bite force/pressure can't really be quantified meaningfully in terms of AP, hence I changed it all to "higher with piercing damage" instead (already implemented); the...
Iron Man (Marvel Cinematic Universe) vs Captain America (Marvel Comics)
Mark 2-5 Iron Man vs Captain America
1.91 tons vs 0.52 tons, speed equalized, battle takes place in the HYDRA Siberian Facility in Civil War, shield restricted, other than that SBA
Loved 3000: 7 (Zark2099, MrKerf, Lord...
This has been coming for a long time, upgrading Captain America to 8-C would be more consistent for scaling.
After several months of finding and calculating, I have calculated a 0.52 ton feat for John Walker. Steve Rogers is weaker, but still scales.
After consulting Ant and Zark, I have made...
I think we're capable of ending this before 14/4.
Basically, Karnak is inconsistent af, and comics like to wank martial arts stuff, hence his pressure points and other martial arts things can harm 4-B people and are extremely inconsistent.
My suggestion would be to make him 9-A base strength...
This might actually be fair. Canon Boba Fett vs MCU Star-Lord Captain America.
Canon Boba Fett, 8-C Captain America, full gear with all weapons, speed equalized, fight takes place in Tatooine, other than that Standard Battle Assumptions
Aaaaaaaah:
Dance off America's ass:
Inconclusive:
In the last thread, we discussed the possibility of Legends Jango Fett being upgraded to Relativistic (scaling to fodder Jedi) or FTL (scaling to Obi-Wan/AOTC Windu). To be continued here.
Prime Lu Bu vs Velociraptor, Standard Battle Assumptions, Lu Bu has his Red Hare horse as well as his trident halberd
Lu Bu: 7 (Mariogoods, Jasonsith, ChemistKyle89, Wokistan, Armorchompy, I am myself You are you, Jaften)
Velociraptor:
Inconclusive:
It's time to end this once and for all.
There are still quite a number of profiles that uses the old Marvel handbook scaling. I have already revised a number of them, as well as improved the justifications for some. However there are still some handbook scaling left on the Marvel profiles:
Fin...
...by four, since relativistic KE is accepted only maximum to be 4 times the newtonian KE according to our Kinetic Energy Feats page.
Moon: 0.5*7.342e22*299792458^2*4 = 1.319732104457143e40 Joules, or 3.15 tenatons, Dwarf Star level
Earth: 0.5*5.97237e24*299792458^2*4 = 1.0735396933664815e42...
ROTS Obi-Wan vs Qui-Gon is a bit unfair imo, plus we might upgrade him if our revisions are successful, so let's try AOTC Obi-Wan vs Qui-Gon. Standard Battle Assumptions, battle takes place at the Naboo Theed power generator. Legends versions.
Obi-Wan:
Qui-Gon: 1 (BruceTheBatman)
Inconclusive:
Albus Dumbledore without the Elder Wand covered London in a fog, which I calculated to be 7-C (Environmental Destruction). This only scales to Gellert Grindelwald with the Elder Wand, who is his nigh-equal. Doesn't scale to anyone else.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/References_for_Common_Feats#Destroying_a_Skyscraper
Destroying a skyscraper is Multi-City Block level+ to Small Town level+. He should be upgraded.
Heracles/Hercules is currently rated as 6-C for holding up the sky. However, unlike the Riordanverse, the sky was not dropped onto him. He simply took the weight from Atlas, then tricked Atlas into taking the sky back. As we agreed a while ago, lifting strength does not scale to attack potency...
Right now we rate him as "unknown", because he's too inconsistent as he fights both Cap and Iron Man.
However instead of removing all his ratings, why don't we put him as "At least Small Building level, at most Multi-Continent level"? I know it's a big gap, but it's better than nothing.
We scale Ares to Iron Man despite the fact that they never fought. However, feats and evidence points towards him being in Thor's league instead of Iron Man's. You can take a look at this respect thread.
Some feats taken from it:
Matches Hercules
Grapples with Thor
Harms Sentry
Matches...
I have calculated Bucky crushing Iron Man's gauntlet to be Class 100, around 10 tonnes stronger than Captain America's feat.
Problem is who scales to this feat. I have discussed with a few people, and most seem to agree Spider-Man scales. Captain America is...inconsistent. He sometimes...