High 7-C Tournament: Saiki K Vs Mahito

[Dr._whiteee]

What is stopping RW??

Please explain the RW. Function, mechanism, strategy behind its use, etc.

 

[ShionAH]

Please explain the RW. Function, mechanism, strategy behind its use, etc.

He just thinks and changes reality insantly.

 

[speedster352]

Not really, he usually only does such if he has prior knowledge or has been forced to because of threat. I'm not saying he will never pull it out but without knowledge, he isn't just going to snipe a .02 DE. He is much more likely to play with his opponent until he sees something that makes him change his mind, but at that point it may be too late.

He also has to be in range to trap his opponent which means he will surely need to fight before using it.

What stops him for shrinking down to a bird on small version of himself go near him and touch him game over. If he keeps seeing his annoying abilities he would just use domain. Also would saki even be able to see him only those with cursed energy can see curses and affect them.

 

[speedster352]

He just thinks and changes reality insantly.

But it has not feats of affecting curse spirits and it has no cursed energy to affect mahito with.

 

[ShionAH]

But it has not feats of affecting curse spirits and it has no cursed energy to affect mahito with.

The spirits resist reality warping? If not then Saiki can effect them with his planet range

 

[speedster352]

The spirits resist reality warping? If not then Saiki can effect them with his planet range

Yeah but it won’t be able to interact or affect mahito because he has no curse energy it wouldn’t work because it wouldn’t even hit him and if mahito sees all this he just gets close and 0.2 domain gg

 

[ShionAH]

Yeah but it won’t be able to interact or affect mahito because he has no curse energy it wouldn’t work because it wouldn’t even hit him and if mahito sees all this he just gets close and 0.2 domain gg

Bro wtf is this? So only way to affect mahito is to use a thing that is inside his verse? That must be wrong otherwise we gotta equalize it somehow.

 

[ShionAH]

Can I see the scan for being literally impossible to affect? I cannot see it anywhere

 

[Dr._whiteee]

He just thinks and changes reality insantly.

Yeah, but like how my guy. This is a very vague statement. From this I can't tell if he can make grass blue, or blink away Mahito out of existence.

 

[ShionAH]

From this I can't tell if he can make grass blue, or blink away Mahito out of existence.

Its on the profile man. Anyways Saiki while barely using the actual potential was able to

"He demonstrated to make colored hair a natural occurrence, made it so that all injuries in the world heal much faster than normal, made it so that buildings are built in weeks instead of month, made it so that the brain works way faster in important situations, made underwear indestructible, made it so that a person with a small body can have ridiculous strength, made it so that a person can easily become unconscious by hitting them to the back of the neck, can possibly grant superpowers to every human in the world"

So reality is a toy for him lol

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Its on the profile man. Anyways Saiki while barely using the actual potential was able to

"He demonstrated to make colored hair a natural occurrence, made it so that all injuries in the world heal much faster than normal, made it so that buildings are built in weeks instead of month, made it so that the brain works way faster in important situations, made underwear indestructible, made it so that a person with a small body can have ridiculous strength, made it so that a person can easily become unconscious by hitting them to the back of the neck, can possibly grant superpowers to every human in the world"

So reality is a toy for him lol

None of this is really impressive tbh, and unless he's doing these things on a crazy scale I don't see how it would help him not get touched and bagged.

 

[ShionAH]

None of this is really impressive tbh, and unless he's doing these things on a crazy scale I don't see how it would help him not get touched and bagged.

What do you mean? He literally stopped using it because how powerful it was.

 

[ShionAH]

Can someone link me the whole "Mahito can only be effected by this specific thing!"

 

[Dr._whiteee]

What do you mean? He literally stopped using it because how powerful it was.

Powerful for his verse. That tells me nothing of how it interacts with JjK's verse. Giving him a bunch of abilities that have never even been hinted at is NLF. Nothing displayed from what you posted is going to be a problem for Mahito.

 

[ShionAH]

Can someone link me the whole "Mahito can only be effected by this specific thing!"

I cannot see anything on the profile

 

[Edutyn]

SBA:

Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

I cannot see anything on the profile

Mahito can control the shape of his soul and thus move it so that it is not tagged.

All cursed spirits have invulnerability to things without cursed energy. Sorcerors bypass this with cursed energy. Most sorcerors cannot hit Mahito without specifically tailored powers, or power nullification because of this.

So unless he can poinpoint and outmaneuver Mahito's soul swapping he will essentially just be hitting Mahito's meat sack which means nothing to him as his regeneration is also bio manip and he can create matter and violate conservation.

Also, all sorcerors can see cursed energy (which is a mix of soul, body, CM 3, and Info 2) yet only a select few can even feel their soul, let alone see it.

 

[ShionAH]

Mahito can control the shape of his soul and thus move it so that it is not tagged.

All cursed spirits have invulnerability to things without cursed energy. Sorcerors bypass this with cursed energy. Most sorcerors cannot hit Mahito without specifically tailored powers, or power nullification because of this.

So unless he can poinpoint and outmaneuver Mahito's soul swapping he will essentially just be hitting Mahito's meat sack which means nothing to him as his regeneration is also bio manip and he can create matter and violate conservation.

Also, all sorcerors can see cursed energy (which is a mix of soul, body, CM 3, and Info 2) yet only a select few can even feel their soul, let alone see it.

Scans and show it on the profile. Plus because of "verse equal" rule Saiki would effect Mahito.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Scans and show it on the profile. Plus because of "verse equal" rule Saiki would effect Mahito.

Sure, I'll post scans later when I have more time.

And no, verse equalization just means his energy source is equalized to cursed energy. I literally just explained to you why that doesn't help against Mahito, who exists in a verse where all of his opponents use cursed energy.

 

[ShionAH]

Sure, I'll post scans later when I have more time

Just show me it on the profile.

 

[Edutyn]

How does cursed energy work?

 

[ShionAH]

How does cursed energy work?

JK fans trying to explains stuff to other people (Impossible challenge) (They wont do it)

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Just show me it on the profile.

Read the entry for his regen and cursed manipulation sections. It's all there.

 

[Dr._whiteee]

How does cursed energy work?

Cursed energy is more akin to Nen. It isn't vital energy or anything like that. It's a para-psychological energy that is abstract in nature and results from negative cognition.

 

[ShionAH]

Read the entry for his regen and cursed manipulation sections. It's all there.

It only talks about physical damage.

 

[ShionAH]

"At least High-Mid - Can regenerate his body as long as his soul is intact. Yuji needed to directly hit his soul to deal with his regeneration; Possibly Low-High - Can regenerate from having his body obliterated. Able to survive from being blown up"

"Curse energy is able to damage curses who are invulnerable to physical damage"

Literally how does this make it "impossible to effect"

 

[Dr._whiteee]

It only talks about physical damage.

Can regenerate his body as long as his soul is intact. Yuji needed to directly hit his soul to deal with his regeneration;

From the cursed energy manipulation page

• Non-Physical Interaction & Information Manipulation (Abstract - Type 2 - The soul and the physical body are illusory boundaries of a person's being that are both fundamentally information. Ogami's technique utilized cursed energy to summon the information of Toji's body while keeping the information comprising his soul separate. Toji was still able to overcome the process and dominate the possessor's soul with only his "body information" which also allowed him to retain his innate feelings and kill himself vs Megumi[1][2][3]. It can also interact with cursed spirits who are the manifested forms of images, emotions, and information stemming from collective human awareness and perceptions related to various phenomena[4]. The doughnut shop-girl had the spirit on her back/shoulders and directly touches the area where the curse is on her and doesn't interact with it but Nanami can[5]. Low-Grade curses are constantly exorcised, which are capable of becoming intangible)

• Invulnerability Negation (Curse energy is able to damage curses who are invulnerable to physical damage[8]. Here also Naoya tells Maki she can hit him all she wants but since he's now a cursed spirit physical attacks don't matter to him even with her being stronger than him, he still isn't affected[9])

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Literally how does this make it "impossible to effect"

I literally never claimed this.

 

[ShionAH]

I literally never claimed this.

So I am not sure if this whole souls are information/concept will save Mahito from Saiki haxing his mind.

 

[Edutyn]

Sorry if I'm wrong, but from what I understood if Verse equalization, wouldn't Saiki's aura work as Cursed Energy?

 

[Dr._whiteee]

So I am not sure if this whole souls are information/concept will save Mahito from Saiki haxing his mind.

It's possible it can, it depends on how the mindhax works.

 

[ShionAH]

It's possible it can, it depends on how the mindhax works.

Typical mind control iirc. I dont know what kind of explanation you want

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Sorry if I'm wrong, but from what I understood if Verse equalization, wouldn't Saiki's aura work as Cursed Energy?

Yes, that would allow Saiki to interact with Mahito's abstract physicality which would normally be invulnerable. Mahito has a seperate layer of resistance with him being able to move his soul around, unlike others who have their soul bonded with their bodies. Saiki would have to get around this by being able to see Mahitos soul, know how his ability works, and tag Mahito with the appropriate move. Which is something Jujutsu sorcers can not do without power null and superstrong Extrasensory perception.

 

[ShionAH]

Yes, that would allow Saiki to interact with Mahito's abstract physicality which would normally be invulnerable. Mahito has a seperate layer of resistance with him being able to move his soul around, unlike others who have their soul bonded with their bodies. Saiki would have to get around this by being able to see Mahitos soul, know how his ability works, and tag Mahito with the appropriate move. Which is something Jujutsu sorcers can not do without power null and superstrong Extrasensory perception.

Passive telepathy?

 

[Dr._whiteee]

Typical mind control iirc. I dont know what kind of explanation you want

That doesn't mean anything. Mind control is super varied from shooting out telepathic beams, and transmitting chakra, to literal technology such as Hypno guns.

Don't ask me for specifics and say things like "Get a jjk fan to explain abilities challenge lolz!!!" while making comments like this when asked in turn.

 

[ShionAH]

That doesn't mean anything. Mind control is super varied from shooting out telepathic beams, and transmitting chakra, to literal technology such as Hypno guns.

Mind control is not varied at all. @edutyn knows more so I will leave this part to him

Don't ask me for specifics and say things like "Get a jjk fan to explain abilities challenge lolz!!!" while making comments like this when asked in turn.

Its a joke why do you have to be so mad? Have some fun in life.

 

[ShionAH]

Since Mahito has no answer to RW or Mind hax and his only special deal is stopped passively by Saikis aura. Saiki FRA

 

[Edutyn]

I invoke my secret card: @DontTalkDT knows more

Saiki's mind control is very varied, from altering people's perception of him, changing the rules of his school, altering the perception of fashion or at the other extreme acts like RW, changing the human genome, giving regeneration to everyone, changing the laws, improving human perception, etc...

That's more or less a resume.

 

[speedster352]

Since Mahito has no answer to RW or Mind hax and his only special deal is stopped passively by Saikis aura. Saiki FRA

Domain expansion would powernull him mahito moves his soul close enough to use 0.2 domain and gg. Stop with the nlf with his abilities I don’t even think curses have brains.

That doesn't mean anything. Mind control is super varied from shooting out telepathic beams, and transmitting chakra, to literal technology such as Hypno guns.

Don't ask me for specifics and say things like "Get a jjk fan to explain abilities challenge lolz!!!" while making comments like this when asked in turn.

Don’t curses resist mind hax? They were able to walk off the lasting effects of Gojo domain mahito included so that’s enough to resist the mind hax. Also Mahito resist powernull. I think mahito scales higher to idle transfiguration is a gg no matter how it’s done domain or touch is a wrap.

 

[speedster352]

I invoke my secret card: @DontTalkDT knows more

Saiki's mind control is very varied, from altering people's perception of him, changing the rules of his school, altering the perception of fashion or at the other extreme acts like RW, changing the human genome, giving regeneration to everyone, changing the laws, improving human perception, etc...

That's more or less a resume.

That’s not different from Gojo mind hax that mahito shrugged off

That doesn't mean anything. Mind control is super varied from shooting out telepathic beams, and transmitting chakra, to literal technology such as Hypno guns.

Don't ask me for specifics and say things like "Get a jjk fan to explain abilities challenge lolz!!!" while making comments like this when asked in turn.

Speaking of which why isn’t mind hax resistance on the profile for the disaster curses they shrugged off the lasting effects of Gojo domain.