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Protagonists that Oden mentioned are obviously the strawhats, the 'nine' shadows that Toki mentioned can only be the 'nine' scabbards, it can't be the strawhats (since she said 9) and it would make no sense for it to be any other group. Tokis words simply mean the scabbards in 20 years will play...
The nine shadows that Toki mentioned aren't the same people Oden said would come in 20 years. Toki was talking about the scabbards and obviously she didn't know Kanjuro was a traitor, Oden was talking about the strawhats
The whole saga from Sabaody to Marineford is One Piece at its peak. It Has the most tension, intensity, excitement whilst breaking the formulaic structure of typical op arcs. Marineford still the most unique arc in op in terms of structure and the good guys losing.
If Kaido is assumed to be in his mid to late fifties then him and Oden are of a similar age when they fight, so if Kaido is arbitrarily decided not to be in his prime then Oden isn't in his prime.
Though Oden dies tbf so it doesn't really matter
You get attacked and you're able to immediately attack back, how is that not at least partly unphased? Regardless you've ignored the first sentence there.
There's no inconsistency, what inconsistency are you talking about?
And my point regarding his durability? Taking two rage powered hits from wb and not being significantly/fatally wounded? The first attack he basically tanks as he's completely unphased and is able to counter attack straight away (bearing in mind first attack was a surprise attack from behind)
Akainu clashes with Whitebeard twice and the 2nd time they both use their devil fruits. Akainu also fights Whitebeard (offscreen) for a period of time and we don't see him nor wb receive injuries, meaning he's able to fight on par with wb. Regarding his defeat, he's returns like two chapters...
You can't become "greatest swordsman ever" because there's no way to measure your strength against previous swordsman who are dead. Zoros goal is to be the WSS, which is what he always states when declaring his dream, not "greatest ever". His goal is Mihawk, not Roger.
Whitebeard was the WSM when Roger was still alive, doesn't mean wb > Roger. Mihawk being the WSS doesn't mean he is > Big mom or Shanks. Kaido is the WSC yet isn't seen as the current strongest character by many people. Again it's strongest person with a sword =/= WSS. Roger can use a sword and...
Zoro surpassing Roger because "swordsman" is the same level of mental gymnastics as the one below it, also PK is >>>>>>>>>>> WSS. Zoro will be lucky to surpass Oden. Roger and WB are in a different league. Also exchange "normal people" for Zoro fanboys
I don't mean "style", I mean people who's main source of power is their swordsmanship. Rayleigh is obviously a better swordsman than someone like Whitebeard who's main source of power is his devil fruit. Again, the worlds strongest swordsman isn't the most powerful character who uses a sword
Worlds strongest swordsman =/= Most powerful character who uses a sword. Odens reputation would be far lesser than Rayleigh, Shiki and WB aren't swordsman. Doubt Roger is a traditional swordsman either
Makes perfect sense. Roger, wb, Garp and Rocks are the undisputed top 4 in whatever order, then you have all the yonko level characters in whatever order. And of course it's headcanon, it's based on our opinions. Imagine being so boring your response to speculation is "headcanon"
There isn't a Oden-Zoro parallel they're two very different characters, Luffy doesn't know navigation either I guess he's a parallel to Oden too. It's clear Momo is the intended shogun, males are higher in the line of succession
That's awful lol, like 90% of those characters are on the same Tier. Tier 0 also shouldn't exist. No character will ever be a whole tier above prime Roger, Wb, and Garp. There should only be 3 Tiers there at maximum.
Akainu returns like 2/3 chapters after those two attacks in perfectly fine condition. Whitebeard also surprise attacks Akainu for his first hit yet it does nothing and Akainu is able to immediately respond by melting part of his head off. People always ignore context with Akainu vs wb
Marco was also making light of the situation. Kizaru didn't mock his strength, they both made sarcastic remarks about being hurt. Ultimately Kizaru could only beat Marco with help and sea stone cuffs